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Re: [PATCH 1/2] Revert "mac80211: support NL80211_EXT_FEATURE_CONTROL_PORT_OVER_NL80211_MAC_ADDRS"

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Hi Jouni,

On 2/25/20 5:00 AM, Jouni Malinen wrote:
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 01:35:51PM -0600, Denis Kenzior wrote:
But it seems like the benefits outweigh the drawbacks?  At least we have
been super happy with how control port works for us.  If you take the
pre-auth path away, I'm really not sure there's any point in (at least for
us) keeping support for the control port path.

Do you use the control port for RX only or both TX and RX? The RX side

Both.  For reasons already discussed.

is mostly harmless _if_ something filters unprotected RSN
pre-authentication frames that are received between the association and
the completion of 4-way handshake. That something would either need to
be the specific user space application using the interface or
potentially mac80211 with some special rules that are different between
EAPOL and RSN pre-authentication ethertypes.

For mac80211, pre-authentication frames are already filtered, or at least that is the intent. See ieee80211_frame_allowed(). Only control_port_protocol packets are allowed through if the station is not yet authorized. Under normal circumstances that would only be EAPoL packets (or esoteric protocols like WAPI). Pre-auth frames would be filtered.

Furthermore, only the userspace daemon that initiated the association would get to see the packets flowing via NL80211_CMD_CONTROL_PORT_FRAME (by providing SOCKET_OWNER attribute). In iwd, we would drop any pre-auth packets without an initiated session on the floor. And we don't initiate pre-auth sessions until we are fully associated/authenticated/authorized.

Last I checked, mac80211 is the only driver that supports this control port mechanism. If other drivers obtain this support, then perhaps stricter checking of the packets flowing via cfg80211_rx_control_port() would be a good idea. However, I'm not sure how much can be done here due to nl80211 being stateless.


For TX, the control port path will likely result in more problematic
issues. I'd expect drivers to use higher priority and/or higher
reliability for delivering the frames. That is justifiable for EAPOL

Fair enough, but the driver is notified of the protocol being sent in tx_control_port(). So it can easily choose not to prioritize pre-auth packets.

frames, but unnecessary for RSN pre-authentication frames. Being able to
bypass the port authorization control would be undesired from security
view point.

TX_CONTROL_PORT does require administrative access for the caller. The userspace management daemon is already trusted to do a lot of things by the kernel (including cleaning up things inside the kernel itself in certain cases). If the userspace daemon cannot be trusted to send control port frames at the appropriate time, then the 'undesired from security view point' argument would apply quite broadly across the entire nl80211 API. In fact, even the NL80211_ATTR_CONTROL_PORT_ETHERTYPE is implicitly trusted to be provided correctly by userspace.

From a practical perspective, if you're worried about this, then perhaps stricter checking in nl80211_tx_control_port() is warranted. But that really implies peeking into the frames being sent...

Another related issue is that NL80211_CMD_TX_CONTROL_PORT (amongst others) doesn't actually check whether the command is being called by the $SOCKET_OWNER process for the target netdev. Realistically, only the $SOCKET_OWNER process has the necessary secrets to generate packets that go via this path. I've submitted some RFC patches to lock this down, but they were rejected.


The key point for me here is the concept of authorized/unauthorized port
for normal Data frames based on the IEEE 802.1X standard. Only the
frames critical for the authentication service (establishing protected
link with the current access point) are allowed to be transmitted and
received while the port used for normal data is unauthorized. For IEEE
802.11, only the EAPOL frames are such Data frames that are needed
before the port can be authorized. RSN pre-authentication frames are
used to establish a new security association with a different access
point once the port with the current AP is authorized. As such, RSN
pre-authentication frames do not need to go through any special path
from the protocol view point and in fact, it would be incorrect to allow
them to be transmitted or received before the main port has been
authorized.
The IEEE 802.11 standard describes this with "communication of all
non-IEEE-802.1X MSDUs sent or received" being authorized/not-authorized.
MSDU is a reference to Data frames and "non-IEEE-802.1X" in this context
to any ethertype other than the one defined in IEEE 802.1X (EAPOL).

As a more specific example, the EAPOL frames are expected to be
transmitted unencrypted during the initial 4-way handshake (and with
some old IEEE 802.1X/WEP designs and some WPA(v1) implementation, even
during rekeying). On the other hand, RSN pre-authentication frames are
never supposed to go out unencrypted over the air (i.e., they must not
be sent or received before the encryption key has been established for
the link). The IEEE 802.11 standard describes this with "A STA shall not
use preauthentication except when pairwise keys are employed" and "As
preauthentication frames do not use the IEEE 802.1X EAPOL EtherType
field, the AP with which the STA is currently associated need not apply
any special handling. The AP and the MAC in the STA shall handle these
frames in the same way as other frames with arbitrary EtherType field
values that require distribution via the DS."

No disagreement with anything you said here...


I understand that there is a different view point for this from the
kernel--user space interface side and it may indeed look more
convenient to use the same path for both EAPOL and RSN
pre-authentication frames from that view point. If that mechanism is
used, it needs to be understood that the rules for EAPOL and RSN
pre-authentication frames are different, though, and it is not clear
where that difference is going to be enforced if the same interface path
is used.


I understand the purity argument you're making here, and I don't disagree with it. Perhaps the naming of the commands, with CONTROL_PORT inside them, is unfortunate, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. It is also unfortunate that pre-authentication was designed the way it was. It is turning out to be somewhat of an anomaly that we nevertheless have to deal with.

I do indeed view this through a different lens. Only the wifi management daemon can realistically generate any frames that flow through the control port, including pre-auth frames. So I think it makes very good sense to provide an optimized path for the userspace daemon to send/receive these frames and not force it to create sockets and use up resources needlessly.

I also don't mind if RX forwarding of pre-auth frames via the control port is made optional. What I would not want to happen is for this capability to be removed completely.

Regards,
-Denis



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