On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Jesse Jones <jjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi Alexis, >> >> > This is loosely based on RFC5148, specifically event-triggered message >> > generation as described in section 5.2. >> >> I'm confused. I see how that generally seems to apply to any mobile >> network, but it *does* state up-front that >> In some instances, these problems can be solved in these lower >> layers, but in other instances, some help at the network and higher >> layers is necessary. >> >> I believe 802.11 *does* in fact solve these issues at lower layers. Can >> you explain how you observed any problem in this area? > > Well it certainly attempts to via stuff like carrier sense. But that is not > fool proof and any time two routers hear a frame and both decide to forward > it immediately there is a chance that they will both sense the air at the > same time, decide that it is clear, and lose both their forwarded frames due > to a collision. How often that happens is hard to say but we have observed > that exact behavior a few years ago with an 802.11 multicast routing > protocol and adding jitter significantly improved reliability. Have you tried performing RTS/CTS before sending path selection frames to manage the hidden node problem? -- thomas