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Re: [PATCHv4 5/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for codel

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On 6 May 2016 at 07:51, Dave Taht <dave.taht@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 5 May 2016 at 17:21, Dave Taht <dave.taht@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> This adds a few debugfs entries to make it easier
>>>> to test, debug and experiment.
>>>
>>> I might argue in favor of moving all these (inc the fq ones) into
>>> their own dir, maybe "aqm" or "sqm".
>>>
>>> The mixture of read only stats and configuration vars is a bit confusing.
>>>
>>> Also in my testing of the previous patch, actually seeing the stats
>>> get updated seemed to be highly async or inaccurate. For example, it
>>> was obvious from the captures themselves that codel_ce_mark-ing was
>>> happening, but the actual numbers out of wack with the mark seen or
>>> fq_backlog seen.  (I can go back to revisit this)
>>
>> That's kind of expected since all of these bits are exposed as
>> separate debugfs entries/files. To avoid that it'd be necessary to
>> provide a single debugfs entry/file whose contents are generated on
>> open() while holding local->fq.lock. But then you could argue it
>> should contain all per-sta-tid info as well (backlog, flows, drops) as
>> well instead of having them in netdev*/stations/*/txqs.
>> Hmm..
>
> I have not had time to write up todays results to any full extent, but
> they were pretty spectacular.
>
> I have a comparison of the baseline ath10k driver vs your 3.5 patchset
> here on the second plot:
>
> http://blog.cerowrt.org/post/predictive_codeling/
>
> The raw data is here:
> https://github.com/dtaht/blog-cerowrt/tree/master/content/flent/qca-10.2-fqmac35-codel-5

It's probably good to explicitly mention that you test(ed) ath10k with
my RFC DQL patch applied. Without it the fqcodel benefits are a lot
less significant.

(oh, and the "3.5" is pre-PATCHv4 before fq/codel split work:
https://github.com/kazikcz/linux/tree/fqmac-v3.5 )


>
> ...
>
> a note: quantum of the mtu (typically 1514) is a saner default than 300,
>
> (the older patch I had, set it to 300, dunno what your default is now).

I still use 300.


> and quantum 1514, codel target 5ms rather than 20ms for this test
> series was *just fine* (but more testing of the lower target is
> needed)

I would keep 20ms for now until we get more test data. I'm mostly
concerned about MU performance on ath10k which requires significant
amount of buffering.


> However:
>
> quantum "300" only makes sense for very, very low bandwidths (say <
> 6mbits), in other scenarios it just eats extra cpu (5 passes through
> the loop to send a big packet) and disables
> the "new/old" queue feature which helps "push" new flows to flow
> balance. I'd default it to the larger value.

Perhaps this could be dynamically adjusted to match the slowest
station known to rate control in the future? Oh, and there's
multicast..


Michał
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