On Mon, 2013-04-15 at 09:39 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > > Yeah it seems not loaded, but how then does the soft block affect hard > > block? All very odd, but almost certainly a platform rather than a wifi > > issue. > > On my 2530p and a lot of other laptops, blocking the BIOS > "switch" (either physically or softblock) hardblocks phy0. I guess the > BIOS twiddles a GPIO that's connected to the mPCI-E module's rfkill > line/GPIO? Yes, that seems to be the case. Something does, anyway, as the GPIO state is pretty much directly reflected in the hard kill of the "phy0" device. > Which leads to the problem we've talked about a long time ago; you can't > treat phy0 hardblock as a physical block that cannot be soft-unblocked, > because some other switch might actually control it's state. We tried > to gray-out the "Enable Wireless" when hardblocked (since logically you > can't soft-unblock something that's hardblocked), but it turns out you > can't do that because unblocking BIOS switches might un-hardblock the > phy0 wifi switch... (and the kernel doesn't describe these > dependencies, because, well, that's laptop-specific and would never be > up-to-date). Yeah ... best thing you could do is assume that if a bios rfkill exists it controls the phy0 hard kill and in case it doesn't enable when you unblock the bios device you pop up a message saying to switch the physical button? johannes -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html