If I am toppsoting, and you say "seem". I apologise. I did my best to avoid it. Perhaps someone can help. Alternatively, it might be a problem in vger.kernel.org mail system because when his message leaves my desktop, and as with the last one, I deleted ALL content except my new message. Anyway back to the FAQ, can anyone help me with the original problem. I did lspci -nn and couldn't find the data I seem to need. Meanwhile I also did a temporary boot of tinycore linux: CorePlus-4.7.1.iso which had a neat app which recognised 10 wirelesses in my neighbourhood, let me choose mine, and let me put in my password and connect. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html