On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:58:03PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > > Jean, you can keep whining and complaining. But you never address > the issue of preserving the userland ABI. Simply releasing a new, > smarter, better wireless-tools does not change the situation. The old ABI has been deprecated for almost 2 years. Compare to some other kernel ABI that change almost on a weekly basis, that's quite stable. You will not find anything in the wild using the old ABI. > I don't see how the patch you wish to revert has anything to do with > the umlaut issue. Try Wireless Tools 30. That's the first version that support the umlaut. > If it does, please explain how or feel free to propose a patch that > corrects it while still preserving the userland ABI. It can not be done. The point is that the current hack in the kernel is based on faulty assumptions, and therefore does not work as advertised. > John > > P.S. Please note that the userland ABI concern is not some pet issue > for me. This comes from the community at large, including Linus, > Jeff Garzik, and other notable contributors. Unfortunately, it's only true with some subsystems, but not all of them. If you go back to the original thread, the concern was the minimise user disruption. The point Linus made is that ABI change are not forbidden, we just need to make sure to minimise user disruption. Have fun... Jean - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
