RE: [PATCH 3/5] watchdog: Make RZV2HWDT driver depend on ARCH_R9A09G47

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Hi Krzysztof Kozlowski,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 24 January 2025 13:00
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] watchdog: Make RZV2HWDT driver depend on ARCH_R9A09G47
> 
> On 24/01/2025 13:55, Biju Das wrote:
> > Hi Krzysztof Kozlowski,
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: 24 January 2025 12:42
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] watchdog: Make RZV2HWDT driver depend on
> >> ARCH_R9A09G47
> >>
> >> On 24/01/2025 11:57, Biju Das wrote:
> >>> Hi Krzysztof Kozlowski,
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: 24 January 2025 10:35
> >>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] watchdog: Make RZV2HWDT driver depend on
> >>>> ARCH_R9A09G47
> >>>>
> >>>> On 24/01/2025 11:20, Biju Das wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +	depends on ARCH_R9A09G047 || ARCH_R9A09G057 || COMPILE_TEST
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But this is just wrong. You are supposed to depend on renesas
> >>>>>> ARHC, not your individual SoC (and this is what you called here "ARCH_R9A...").
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Greg many times gave strong opinion that even full ARCH is wrong
> >>>>>> and we managed to convince him that it has a meaning (or he did
> >>>>>> not want to keep discussing). But restricting it per soc is
> >>>>>> pointless and impossible to defend in
> >>>> discussion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Currently for building RZ/G3E WDT, I need to always have RZ/V2H SoC config.
> >>>>> which is pointless. May be ARCH_RENESAS should ok in this case??
> >>>> Assuming ARCH_RENESAS covers your individual SoCs above, yes,
> >>>> that's the way for driver to limit themselves to usable family.
> >>>
> >>> ARCH_RENESAS has ARM, ARM64 and RISC based SoCs.
> >>>
> >>> Currently it covers ARCH_RCAR_GEN1, ARCH_RCAR_GEN2,  ARCH_RCAR_GEN3,
> >>> ARCH_RCAR_GEN4, ARCH_RMOBILE, ARCH_RZG2L, ARCH_RZN1 Family SOCs and
> >>> rest of the individual SoCs such as RZ/V2H abnd RZ/g3E.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rather tell me why this is supposed to be different than other vendors?
> >
> > It is not different from other vendors.
> >
> > See, for eg:
> > config S3C2410_WATCHDOG
> >  557         tristate "S3C6410/S5Pv210/Exynos Watchdog"
> >  558         depends on ARCH_S3C64XX || ARCH_S5PV210 || ARCH_EXYNOS || COMPILE_TEST
> 
> You see - only one ARCH_EXYNOS.
> 
> That's the arch and vendor. Exynos is the entire arch for arm32 and
> arm64 consisting of all of SoCs.

In Renesas case it is ARCH_RENESAS.

> 
> S3C and S5P are entirely different, much older archs - these even could not be combined in one image
> with Exynos some time ago.
> 
> >
> >
> > 575 config SA1100_WATCHDOG
> >  576         tristate "SA1100/PXA2xx watchdog"
> >  577         depends on ARCH_SA1100 || ARCH_PXA || COMPILE_TEST
> >
> > and many more.
> 
> Again: only one SA1100, one PXA. Not per each PXA SoC.
> 
> So these prove my point - use only your ARCH
> >
> >
> >>
> >> || ARM64 is already used solution
> >
> > If you are correct, then all should depend on either on ARM or ARM64 or RISCV etc...
> >
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Since most of IP's in RZ/V2H and RZ/G3E are identical we could
> >>> introduce a new family SoC ARCH_RZG3E_RZV2H to cover both or top level ARCH_RENESAS??
> >>
> >> You should not write drivers per SoCs (or even two or there SoCs) and
> >> there is really no need to restrict them per each SoC.
> >
> > If I am not wrong, The watchdog subsystem uses similar approach.
> >
> >>
> >> Otherwise come with arguments to my first question: why do you need
> >> exception here from generic kernel approach?
> >
> > It is not deviating from generic kernel approach as lot of vendors are doing this way.
> > eg:
> >
> > config OMAP_WATCHDOG
> >           tristate "OMAP Watchdog"
> >          depends on ARCH_OMAP16XX || ARCH_OMAP2PLUS || COMPILE_TEST
> 
> Anyway, that's ancient OMAP, we speak about new devices.
> 
> >
> >
> >  config DAVINCI_WATCHDOG
> >          tristate "DaVinci watchdog"
> >           depends on ARCH_DAVINCI || ARCH_KEYSTONE || COMPILE_TEST
> 
> Different ARCH, not SoCs!
> 
> >
> >
> >  config K3_RTI_WATCHDOG
> >          tristate "Texas Instruments K3 RTI watchdog"
> >          depends on ARCH_K3 || COMPILE_TEST
> 
> Dependency on ARCH.
> 
> Do you understand the difference between ARCH and SoC (ARCH_R9A09G47 is the SoC - individual or
> family)?

ARCH_R9A09G47 --> Is a SoC (RZ/G3E)
ARCH_R9A09G57 --> Is a SoC (RZ/V2H)

90%of IP between these SoCs are same. So can't this belongs to same family of SoCs(eg: ARCH_RZ_G3E_V2H family)?

Cheers,
Biju







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