On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > On 18/02/2015 at 06:50:44 -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote : >> >>> Optional properties: >> >>> - timeout-sec: Contains the watchdog timeout in seconds. >> >>>+- early-timeout-sec: If present, specifies a timeout value in seconds >> >>>+ that the driver keeps on ticking the watchdog HW on behalf of user >> >>>+ space. Once this timeout expires watchdog is left to expire in >> >>>+ timeout-sec seconds. If this propery is set to zero, watchdog is >> >>>+ started (or left running) so that a reset occurs in timeout-sec >> >>>+ since the watchdog was started. >> >>> >> >>> Example: >> >>> >> >>> watchdog { >> >>> timeout-sec = <60>; >> >>>+ early-timeout-sec = <120>; >> >> >> >>That is not a generic property as you defined it; if so, >> >>it would have to be implemented in the watchdog core code, >> >>not in the at91 code. You'll have to document it in the bindings >> >>description for at91sam9_wdt. >> > >> >Then, if this is a controller specific property, it should be defined >> >with the 'atmel,' prefix. >> >We're kind of looping here: the initial discussion was "is there a need >> >for this property to be a generic one ?", and now you're saying no, >> >while you previously left the door opened. >> > >> >Tomi is proposing a generic approach, as you asked him to. I agree that >> >parsing the property in core code and making its value part of the >> >generic watchdog struct makes sense (that's what I proposed to Tomi a >> >few weeks ago). >> > >> Hmm ... the problem here is that the property description creates the >> assumption or expectation that the property is used if defined, >> which is not the case. >> >> I am not sure how to best resolve this. Maybe a comment in the property >> description stating that implementation of is device (driver) dependent ? >> After all, that is true for the timeout-sec property as well. >> > > I would leave it in the generic file and state that it may not be > implemented in the driver. That way, the property is documented for new > driver writers. That is pretty much true of any optional property. Whether implemented in the driver or core is an implementation detail that does not belong in the binding. I find this property pretty questionable. Certainly having the kernel service a watchdog either enabled at reset, in the bootloader, or by the kernel is a useful feature. A timeout for "how long userspace watchdog daemon takes to start" does not belong in DT. timeout-sec should be the default/initial timeout and long enough for userspace to start. Userspace can then change it to a more suitable value. Rob -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-watchdog" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html