Hi All, > On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 07:30:56AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > >>The patches _are_ in my watchdog-next branch and get some coverage from > > >>both my auto-builders and from Fenguang's build robots, so while they are > > >>not in linux-next, they are not completely in the dark either. > > > > > >So, this patch finally didn't make it into 3.16. Great. Now, we can't > > >even reboot the boards. > > > > > >Given how it's just impossible to get something merged reliably > > >through the watchdog tree, I guess I should just start merging the > > >patches through mine? > > > > > > > You can not really blame Wim here. > > > > In this case, I suspect the major reason for not accepting the patch > > is that I tried to provide a clean method / API for "reset through watchdog > > subsystem", which went nowhere, in my understanding because someone objected > > that it would be the wrong thing to do [1] and it didn't get approval / > > acceptance from the arm maintainers. If it is wrong to reset the board > > from the watchdog subsystem in a clean way, it is for sure even more wrong > > to do it as you proposed in your patch. > > > > My conclusion therefore is that all board reset code should move back out > > of the watchdog subsystem, and that we should not accept such code in the > > future. This is not my personal preference, but I do believe that we should > > do it in a clean way or not at all. > > Well, considering that this patch isn't depending on your reboot API > set, and that Wim never either commented on this patch, your reboot > API patchset or your pull request to say that he was not willing to > merge this, there's still a huge failure to communicate. > > I'm fine with any technical reason, let's debate on that. But the > point is there has been no debate at all, only silence from his side. > > I have been told some patches would be merged and I merged through my > tree some patches that were depending on this one based on that > assumption. > > And now, we have a regression. > > Anyway... I guess I should just revert some commits now. > To continue the discussion: I would like to add an excerpt from drivers/watchdog/alim7101_wdt.c /* * Notifier for system down */ static int wdt_notify_sys(struct notifier_block *this, unsigned long code, void *unused) { if (code == SYS_DOWN || code == SYS_HALT) wdt_turnoff(); if (code == SYS_RESTART) { /* * Cobalt devices have no way of rebooting themselves other * than getting the watchdog to pull reset, so we restart the * watchdog on reboot with no heartbeat */ wdt_change(WDT_ENABLE); pr_info("Watchdog timer is now enabled with no heartbeat - should reboot in ~1 second\n"); } return NOTIFY_DONE; } For some systems the watchdog is the only way to reboot... So where we should put it, is not trivial neither... Kind regards, Wim. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-watchdog" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html