Re: [PATCH v1 0/6] virtio: support advance DMA

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On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 10:58 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 4:00 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:02:14 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > 在 2022/2/21 下午7:23, Xuan Zhuo 写道:
> > > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:32:52 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 5:00 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 15:19:44 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 4:51 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>>>> virtqueue_add() only supports virtual addresses, dma is completed in
> > > >>>>> virtqueue_add().
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> In some scenarios (such as the AF_XDP scenario), DMA is completed in advance, so
> > > >>>>> it is necessary for us to support passing the DMA address to virtqueue_add().
> > > >>>> I'd suggest rename this feature as "unmanaged DMA".
> > > >>> OK
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>> Record this predma information in extra->flags, which can be skipped when
> > > >>>>> executing dma unmap.
> > > >>>> Question still, can we use per-virtqueue flag instead of per
> > > >>>> descriptor flag? If my memory is correct, the answer is yes in the
> > > >>>> discussion for the previous version.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> Yes.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> per-virtqueue? I guess it should be per-submit.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This patch set only adds a flag to desc_extra[head].flags, so that we can know
> > > >>> if we need to unmap dma when we detach.
> > > >> I meant if we can manage to make it per virtqueue, there's no need to
> > > >> maintain per buffer flag.
> > > >>
> > > > Rethinking this question, I feel there is no essential difference between per
> > > > virtqueue and per sgs.
> > > >
> > > > per virtqueue:
> > > >     1. add buf:
> > > >             a. check vq->premapped for map every sg
> > > >     2. detach:
> > > >             a. check vq->premaped for unmap
> > > >
> > > > per sgs:
> > > >     1. add buf:
> > > >             a. check function parameter "premapped" for map every sg
> > > >             b. add flag to extra[head].flag
> > > >
> > > >     2. detach:
> > > >             a: check extra[head].flag for unmap
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Per-virtqueue is still a little bit easier at the first glance.
> > >
> > > Actually, per-sg have one advantage: it can be used without virtqueue
> > > reset (to allow switching between the two modes). But I'm not sure
> > > whether we had such requirements.
> > >
> > > I think to answer this question, we probably need a real use case (if we
> > > can come up with a case that is more lightweight than AF_XDP, that would
> > > be even better).
> >
> > Sadly, I didn't think of other scenarios. Hope someone can give a scenario.
> >
> > For per virtqueue, virtio-net will also switch to premapped. Because the tx
> > queue is shared.
> >
> > But in the process of implementing this, I encountered a troublesome problem. We
> > need to record the dma address in virtnet. For tx, since skb contains multiple
> > frags, there will be many dma addresses. When unmap in virtnet It will be more
> > troublesome. Because we have to regain these dma addresses.
>
> Right, actually, we store the dma address in desc_extra, but exposing
> it to the driver seems like an overkill.
>
> >
> > I think of two ways:
> >
> > 1. Let virtio return the addr of each desc when detached.
> > 2. Allocate a block of memory for each sq/rq to hold the dma address.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> So it looks to me having a per buffer flag seems ok. Let me go through
> this series.
>

Ok, so the series looks good overall, but we need a user.  I wonder if
we can convert XDP to use that as an example. (and AF_XDP on top).

Thanks

> Thanks
>
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> So we know something that needs to be mapped by virtio core itself,
> > > >> e.g the indirect page. Other than this, all the rest could be
> > > >> pre-mapped.
> > > >>
> > > >> For vnet header, it could be mapped by virtio-net which could be still
> > > >> treated as pre mapped DMA since it's not the virtio ring code.
> > > >>
> > > >> Anything I miss here?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> v1:
> > > >>>>>     1. All sgs requested at one time are required to be unified PREDMA, and several
> > > >>>>>        of them are not supported to be PREDMA
> > > >>>>>     2. virtio_dma_map() is removed from this patch set and will be submitted
> > > >>>>>        together with the next time AF_XDP supports virtio dma
> > > >>>>>     3. Added patch #2 #3 to remove the check for flags when performing unmap
> > > >>>>>        indirect desc
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Xuan Zhuo (6):
> > > >>>>>    virtio: rename vring_unmap_state_packed() to
> > > >>>>>      vring_unmap_extra_packed()
> > > >>>>>    virtio: remove flags check for unmap split indirect desc
> > > >>>>>    virtio: remove flags check for unmap packed indirect desc
> > > >>>>>    virtio: virtqueue_add() support predma
> > > >>>>>    virtio: split: virtqueue_add_split() support dma address
> > > >>>>>    virtio: packed: virtqueue_add_packed() support dma address
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>   drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c | 199 ++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
> > > >>>>>   1 file changed, 126 insertions(+), 73 deletions(-)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>> 2.31.0
> > > >>>>>
> > >
> >

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