On 05.02.20 17:34, David Hildenbrand wrote: > Commit 71994620bb25 ("virtio_balloon: replace oom notifier with shrinker") > changed the behavior when deflation happens automatically. Instead of > deflating when called by the OOM handler, the shrinker is used. > > However, the balloon is not simply some slab cache that should be > shrunk when under memory pressure. The shrinker does not have a concept of > priorities, so this behavior cannot be configured. > > There was a report that this results in undesired side effects when > inflating the balloon to shrink the page cache. [1] > "When inflating the balloon against page cache (i.e. no free memory > remains) vmscan.c will both shrink page cache, but also invoke the > shrinkers -- including the balloon's shrinker. So the balloon > driver allocates memory which requires reclaim, vmscan gets this > memory by shrinking the balloon, and then the driver adds the > memory back to the balloon. Basically a busy no-op." > > The name "deflate on OOM" makes it pretty clear when deflation should > happen - after other approaches to reclaim memory failed, not while > reclaiming. This allows to minimize the footprint of a guest - memory > will only be taken out of the balloon when really needed. > > Especially, a drop_slab() will result in the whole balloon getting > deflated - undesired. While handling it via the OOM handler might not be > perfect, it keeps existing behavior. If we want a different behavior, then > we need a new feature bit and document it properly (although, there should > be a clear use case and the intended effects should be well described). > > Keep using the shrinker for VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT, because > this has no such side effects. Always register the shrinker with > VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT now. We are always allowed to reuse free > pages that are still to be processed by the guest. The hypervisor takes > care of identifying and resolving possible races between processing a > hinting request and the guest reusing a page. > > In contrast to pre commit 71994620bb25 ("virtio_balloon: replace oom > notifier with shrinker"), don't add a moodule parameter to configure the > number of pages to deflate on OOM. Can be re-added if really needed. > Also, pay attention that leak_balloon() returns the number of 4k pages - > convert it properly in virtio_balloon_oom_notify(). > > Note1: using the OOM handler is frowned upon, but it really is what we > need for this feature. > > Note2: without VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST (iow, always with QEMU) we > could actually skip sending deflation requests to our hypervisor, > making the OOM path *very* simple. Besically freeing pages and > updating the balloon. If the communication with the host ever > becomes a problem on this call path. > @Michael, how to proceed with this? -- Thanks, David / dhildenb _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization