On 06.02.20 10:12, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 05:34:02PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote: >> Commit 71994620bb25 ("virtio_balloon: replace oom notifier with shrinker") >> changed the behavior when deflation happens automatically. Instead of >> deflating when called by the OOM handler, the shrinker is used. >> >> However, the balloon is not simply some slab cache that should be >> shrunk when under memory pressure. The shrinker does not have a concept of >> priorities, so this behavior cannot be configured. >> >> There was a report that this results in undesired side effects when >> inflating the balloon to shrink the page cache. [1] >> "When inflating the balloon against page cache (i.e. no free memory >> remains) vmscan.c will both shrink page cache, but also invoke the >> shrinkers -- including the balloon's shrinker. So the balloon >> driver allocates memory which requires reclaim, vmscan gets this >> memory by shrinking the balloon, and then the driver adds the >> memory back to the balloon. Basically a busy no-op." >> >> The name "deflate on OOM" makes it pretty clear when deflation should >> happen - after other approaches to reclaim memory failed, not while >> reclaiming. This allows to minimize the footprint of a guest - memory >> will only be taken out of the balloon when really needed. >> >> Especially, a drop_slab() will result in the whole balloon getting >> deflated - undesired. While handling it via the OOM handler might not be >> perfect, it keeps existing behavior. If we want a different behavior, then >> we need a new feature bit and document it properly (although, there should >> be a clear use case and the intended effects should be well described). >> >> Keep using the shrinker for VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT, because >> this has no such side effects. Always register the shrinker with >> VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT now. We are always allowed to reuse free >> pages that are still to be processed by the guest. The hypervisor takes >> care of identifying and resolving possible races between processing a >> hinting request and the guest reusing a page. >> >> In contrast to pre commit 71994620bb25 ("virtio_balloon: replace oom >> notifier with shrinker"), don't add a moodule parameter to configure the >> number of pages to deflate on OOM. Can be re-added if really needed. >> Also, pay attention that leak_balloon() returns the number of 4k pages - >> convert it properly in virtio_balloon_oom_notify(). >> >> Note1: using the OOM handler is frowned upon, but it really is what we >> need for this feature. >> >> Note2: without VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST (iow, always with QEMU) we >> could actually skip sending deflation requests to our hypervisor, >> making the OOM path *very* simple. Besically freeing pages and >> updating the balloon. If the communication with the host ever >> becomes a problem on this call path. >> >> [1] https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-virtualization/msg40863.html >> >> Reported-by: Tyler Sanderson <tysand@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@xxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Nadav Amit <namit@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > I guess we should add a Fixes tag to the patch it's reverting, > this way it's backported and hypervisors will be able to rely on OOM > behaviour. Makes sense, Fixes: 71994620bb25 ("virtio_balloon: replace oom notifier with shrinker") -- Thanks, David / dhildenb _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization