On 2018/12/4 12:08, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 10:21:40AM +0800, jiangyiwen wrote: >> On 2018/12/4 9:31, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 11:10:58AM +0800, jiangyiwen wrote: >>>> On 2018/11/30 21:40, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 09:10:03PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2018/11/30 下午8:55, Jason Wang wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2018/11/30 下午8:52, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >>>>>>>>>> If you want to compare it with >>>>>>>>>> something that would be TCP or QUIC. The fundamental >>>>>>>>>> difference between >>>>>>>>>> virtio-vsock and e.g. TCP is that TCP operates in a packet >>>>>>>>>> loss environment. >>>>>>>>>> So they are using timers for reliability, and receiver is >>>>>>>>>> always free to >>>>>>>>>> discard any unacked data. >>>>>>>>> Virtio-net knows nothing above L2, so they are totally >>>>>>>>> transparent to device >>>>>>>>> itself. I still don't get why not using virtio-net instead. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> Is your question why is virtio-vsock used instead of TCP on top of IP >>>>>>>> on top of virtio-net? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, my question is why not do vsock through virtio-net. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to clarify, it's not about vosck over ethernet, and it's not about >>>>>> inventing new features or APIs. It's probably something like: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Let virtio-net driver probe vsock device and do vosck specific things if >>>>>> needed to share as much codes. >>>>>> >>>>>> - A new kind of sockfd (which is vsock based) for vhost-net for it to do >>>>>> vsock specific things (hopefully it can be transparent). >>>>>> >>>>>> The change should be totally transparent to userspace applications. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Which code is duplicated between virtio vsock and virtio net right now? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Michael, >>>> >>>> AFAIK, there is almost no duplicate code between virtio vsock and virtio net now. >>>> >>>> But, if virtio vsock wants to support mergeable rx buffer and multiqueue feature, >>>> it has some duplicate codes from virtio net. Based on it, we both think vsock >>>> may use virtio net as a transport channel, in this way, vsock can use some of >>>> virtio net great features. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Yiwen. >>> >>> What I would do is just copy some code and show a performance >>> benefit. If that works out it will be clearer which code >>> should be shared. >>> >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> I have already sent a series of patches (VSOCK: support mergeable rx buffer in vhost-vsock) >> a month ago, and the performance as follows: >> >> I write a tool to test the vhost-vsock performance, mainly send big >> packet(64K) included guest->Host and Host->Guest. The result as >> follows: >> >> Before performance: >> Single socket Multiple sockets(Max Bandwidth) >> Guest->Host ~400MB/s ~480MB/s >> Host->Guest ~1450MB/s ~1600MB/s >> >> After performance: >> Single socket Multiple sockets(Max Bandwidth) >> Guest->Host ~1700MB/s ~2900MB/s >> Host->Guest ~1700MB/s ~2900MB/s >> >> >From the test results, the performance is improved obviously, and guest >> memory will not be wasted. > > Oh I didn't see that one. Pls CC me in the future. > > Looking at it I agree zero page allocation looks like an issue > but besides that, I think we can merge something similar > and look at refactoring and future extensions later. > > However, any interface change (e.g. a new feature) must be CC'd to one of > virtio lists (subscriber-only). > > Okay, previously I send Virtio-vsock patch only CC stefan and mailing lists based on MAINTAINERS, because it only be related to Virtio-vsock. Then, first I send v2 patch based on Jason's suggestions, and then let's see how to combine with virtio-vsock and virtio-net. What do you think? Thanks, Yiwen. > >> In addition, multiqueue feature I have not implemented it yet. >> >> Thanks, >> Yiwen. >> > > > > > . > _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization
