On 2018/12/4 9:31, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 11:10:58AM +0800, jiangyiwen wrote: >> On 2018/11/30 21:40, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 09:10:03PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2018/11/30 下午8:55, Jason Wang wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 2018/11/30 下午8:52, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: >>>>>>>> If you want to compare it with >>>>>>>> something that would be TCP or QUIC. The fundamental >>>>>>>> difference between >>>>>>>> virtio-vsock and e.g. TCP is that TCP operates in a packet >>>>>>>> loss environment. >>>>>>>> So they are using timers for reliability, and receiver is >>>>>>>> always free to >>>>>>>> discard any unacked data. >>>>>>> Virtio-net knows nothing above L2, so they are totally >>>>>>> transparent to device >>>>>>> itself. I still don't get why not using virtio-net instead. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Is your question why is virtio-vsock used instead of TCP on top of IP >>>>>> on top of virtio-net? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No, my question is why not do vsock through virtio-net. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>> >>>> Just to clarify, it's not about vosck over ethernet, and it's not about >>>> inventing new features or APIs. It's probably something like: >>>> >>>> - Let virtio-net driver probe vsock device and do vosck specific things if >>>> needed to share as much codes. >>>> >>>> - A new kind of sockfd (which is vsock based) for vhost-net for it to do >>>> vsock specific things (hopefully it can be transparent). >>>> >>>> The change should be totally transparent to userspace applications. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>> >>> Which code is duplicated between virtio vsock and virtio net right now? >>> >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> AFAIK, there is almost no duplicate code between virtio vsock and virtio net now. >> >> But, if virtio vsock wants to support mergeable rx buffer and multiqueue feature, >> it has some duplicate codes from virtio net. Based on it, we both think vsock >> may use virtio net as a transport channel, in this way, vsock can use some of >> virtio net great features. >> >> Thanks, >> Yiwen. > > What I would do is just copy some code and show a performance > benefit. If that works out it will be clearer which code > should be shared. > Hi Michael, I have already sent a series of patches (VSOCK: support mergeable rx buffer in vhost-vsock) a month ago, and the performance as follows: I write a tool to test the vhost-vsock performance, mainly send big packet(64K) included guest->Host and Host->Guest. The result as follows: Before performance: Single socket Multiple sockets(Max Bandwidth) Guest->Host ~400MB/s ~480MB/s Host->Guest ~1450MB/s ~1600MB/s After performance: Single socket Multiple sockets(Max Bandwidth) Guest->Host ~1700MB/s ~2900MB/s Host->Guest ~1700MB/s ~2900MB/s >From the test results, the performance is improved obviously, and guest memory will not be wasted. In addition, multiqueue feature I have not implemented it yet. Thanks, Yiwen. _______________________________________________ Virtualization mailing list Virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/virtualization