Re: Hardware bug in Intel USB-2 hub?

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On Thu, 11 Jul 2013, Sarah Sharp wrote:

> > I don't know.  The real cause of the problem is that the USB-2 spec
> > never took this race into account.  (AFAIK neither did the USB-3 spec;  
> > didn't you face this problem at one point?)  It contains detailed state
> > diagrams and explanations for how a hub should work, and any hub that
> > follows those instructions exactly will experience the problems I
> > described.
> 
> I was dealing with a VIA USB 3.0 hub that didn't advertise remote wakeup
> at all, and thus probably wasn't actually designed to be suspended.  I
> had hacked around its lack of remote wakeup to make the USB core suspend
> the USB 3.0 portion during runtime, and it kept sending wakeup requests
> whenever it was suspended.  Basically, I don't think this issue was
> related to your issue.

Does the USB-3 spec say what should happen when a remote wakeup signal
on a downstream port in U3 races with a U0->U3 transition on the hub's
upstream port?  I tried to figure it out, but section 10.8 doesn't seem
to consider that the upstream port might go into U3 while a downstream
port is driving a remote wakeup signal.  Figure 10-13 is ambiguous too.

Alan Stern

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