Re: Two remain problems at chipidea driver

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On 03/20/2013 03:44 PM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 04:26:02PM +0200, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
>>>>>> dr_cap is what the device can actually do (host, peripheral, etc). Tells
>>>>>> us which roles to initialize and wether we can access OTGSC on this
>>>>>> device.
>>>>>> dr_mode is what function of the device we'll be using on this particular
>>>>>> board.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I don't get why the driver needs to know what the chipidea can do
>>>>> in theory (dr_cap). IMHO it should be sufficient to tell the driver what
>>>>> that exact hardware it runs on can do (dr_mode). What the hardware can
>>>>> do depends on the actual chipidea implementation used in that SoC and
>>>>> the board the SoC is soldered on.
>>>>
>>>> Again, see the discussion above.
>>>>
>>>> In real world products (that is, phones and tablets as opposed to jolly
>>>> fun development boards), vendors will want to limit the usb
>>>> functionality to peripheral only or host only or whatever, because the
>>>> middleware stack can only do one thing or because they don't want to go
>>>> through with otg certification or you name it. Meanwhile, the controller
>>>
>>> that's not entirely true. A manufacturer can decide to skip OTG
>>> certification but still support Dual Role. Look at the whole Android
>>> Accessory Kit, for example.
>>
>> Sure, I was just making an example of how device capabilities can differ
>> from device's intended function.
>>
>>>> and the whole device can still support otg. And we need to know that if
>>>> we're to try to detect vbus session, because that is done via OTGSC
>>>> which is only available in otg configurations.
>>>
>>> well, if it's only available in OTG configurations, then you make the
>>> same assumption in driver. If driver was compiled with OTG, you check
>>> OTGSC; otherwise don't.
>>
>> I'd kind of like to support different configurations in runtime and have
>> as few compilation options as possible. Of course, if it means extra
>> spaghetti, there's a trade off right there.
> 
> right, that's what I did with drivers/usb/dwc3/, it helped cut down
> ifdeferry to a minimum. But when chromebook with Exynos5 showed up, we
> _had_ to allow manufacturers to ship the notebook without the peripheral
> side, since they'd never, ever use it. Since the code was already
> prepared for that, it was pretty simple and there's no ifdef hell
> anywhere. Below you will find original commit. The main idea is that, if
> you want a distro-like kernel, then you always build with everything
> (DRD), but if you're building a real product, as you said, you may not
> want to ship both modes unless you're really going to use them.

With the "dr_mode" property in the DT, you can build one kernel that
supports host, device and otg at the same time, but still limit a
particular hardware to device only mode.

Marc

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