s/is already done/should already be done. Matt Sealey <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Product Development Analyst, Genesi USA, Inc. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Matt Sealey <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Felipe Balbi <balbi@xxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 07:40:23PM +0530, kishon wrote: >>> On Tuesday 29 January 2013 07:23 PM, Wolfram Sang wrote: >>> >>>+ err = of_property_read_string(np, "phy_type", &phy_type); >>> >>>+ if (err < 0) >>> >>>+ return USBPHY_INTERFACE_MODE_NA; >>> >> >>> >>Why don't we use a u32 property type for the *phy-type*? IMHO we >>> >>should use string property only when the property should be >>> >>absolutely unambiguous (e.g., compatible property should be string). >>> > >>> >If we would use u32-numbers in the compatible entry, this would also be >>> >unambiguous, no? 0xd00dfeed would be the at24-driver. Pretty specific. >>> >>> hehe... But we don't have a corresponding *enum* representing the >>> drivers :-) >>> > >>> >I don't mind having readable devicetrees. And we have it for ethernet >>> >phys already with strings, so it would be consistent. >>> >>> Ok. Fine with it then :-) >> >> I prefer u32 here, because we have the matching enum. Otherwise we end >> up with: >> >> of_property_read_string(...,&type); >> >> if (!strcmp(type, "ulpi")) >> foo(); >> else if (!strcmp(type, "utmi")) >> bar(); >> else if (!strcmp(type, "pipe3")) >> baz(); >> else >> BUG(); >> >> and I don't like that, it's ugly and error prone. Also looks awful when >> someone needs to change that, the diff looks messy. A u32 followed by a >> switch statement looks nicer. > > I wholeheartedly and vehemently disagree. > > Device trees don't exist to make Linux look prettier, *OR* clean up > your source code of string comparisons when you think comparing an > integer looks or feels cleaner. They exist to provide a hardware > description. phy-type 0x3 does not describe anything except that you > have to go look up what 0x3 means, and means device trees cannot be > internally consistent within themselves or publically existing > documentation (it is certain that there is no USB PHY specification > that defines 0x3 as anything, which means the value is entirely Linux > specific). > > Matching an enum or magic number encoded into a u32 in some external > source code to define a type that wasn't just an index is not > something that anyone has ever reasonably done in any traditional > IEEE1275 device tree or OpenFirmware-committee binding, and we > shouldn't just be subverting the existing standard to make Linux code > "look prettier". > > Please consider other operating systems, which would need to copy the > definition of the enum which may not be possible when thinking of > Linux vs. FreeBSD or so, and in general the readability of the device > tree - phy-type 0x3 is going to require a comment in the device tree > source to remind people what that means, or a cross-reference to a > binding which is more work than most developers want to do to make > sure they specified the correct PHY type. A string is completely and > unavoidably correct - a typo in the phy-type means a match against > valid bindings is impossible and an instant bug. A mistaken u32 value > means the wrong phy-type is defined which has increased potential to > provide misconfigured phy with the wrong type and less warning than a > string literal not being absolutely identical. I think that means more > buggy device trees will get past where it doesn't actually work > properly, and more time will be spent working out WHY it doesn't > actually work properly. > > It is much better to be totally unambiguous in the device tree as per > the type and a string is the best way. If you really want effective, > less error-prone code, define all the existing or useful types as > preprocessor defines (#define PHY_TYPE_UTMI_WIDE "utmiw") and use > those to match the binding. I wouldn't hand-code a property string > inline even if you offered me a million dollars to do so. Matching the > dr_mode property is already done in a drivers/of or of_phy.h include > so just move the potential match code to there and return the correct > enum (which is arguably Linux-specific) from the string and give a big > fat error from the match function if none of the valid bindings > matches up. > > BTW I disagree with the use of underscores in device trees as well, I > wouldn't use an underscore for a new property. But in the case of > dr_mode it is well used already especially for Freescale controllers > on PPC where there are a significant handful of DTS (or real OF) that > implement it. It might not be a bad idea, though, to update the > binding deprecating dr_mode in favor of something that is much less > ambiguous and descriptive itself - "dr-mode" is an acceptable fix but > a "role" property or "dual-role-mode" is much more descriptive. Moving > the matching to some common code since more than one controller uses > it and then adding a new, better property name with dr_mode as an > acceptable but unrecommended fallback means this can be left to > history. > > -- > Matt Sealey <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Product Development Analyst, Genesi USA, Inc. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html