Re: [PATCH] From 2.6.39-rc1 onward, the Logitech Quickcam Fusion webcam (046d:08c1) stops

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On 07.07.2012 15:55, Eric Ding wrote:
> On 07/07/2012 09:11 PM, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
>> On 07.07.2012 13:38, Eric Ding wrote:
>>> On 07/07/2012 06:09 PM, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
>>>> On 07.07.2012 11:20, Eric Ding wrote:
>>>>> On 07/06/2012 11:47 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Jul 2012, Alan Cox wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, but we still need to know the reason why.  Neither Rafael nor I 
>>>>>>>> has been able to figure out why that commit messed things up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was the driver doing any dynamic autosuspend at all until that point ?

>>>>>> I don't know...  but whatever it was doing before the commit, it should 
>>>>>> be doing the same thing afterward.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought that getting some comparative usbmon logs might help, but I'm
>>>>> not equipped to parse them.  To generate these logs, I ran guvcview once
>>>>> after plugging in the webcam, then did the following upon quiting
>>>>> guvcview: start listening via usbmon, sleep for four seconds, start
>>>>> guvcview again and stop listening via usbmon after four seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did this both at commit e1620d5 (the commit which triggered this
>>>>> issue) and once at commit 9975961 (one commit prior).  Going through
>>>>> these motions also confirmed that the problem is readily reproducible
>>>>> the second time I start guvcview at e1620d5, but not at 9975961.  I've
>>>>> attached both logs in case they're helpful.
>>>>
>>>> In both logs you send the cam start to stream video. Major difference is
>>>> that, after suspend/resume it need more time (about 10 seconds) to start
>>>> stream. Is it correct?
>>>
>>> My tests didn't continue a full 10 seconds after I restarted the webcam,
>>> so I'm not sure I follow your question.  In the second case (with
>>> e1620d5), the camera never returns a "normal" video image -- instead, it
>>> gets a garbled video image of horizontal stripes, which change with what
>>> the camera lens is seeing, but are obviously not the correct image.
>>
>> Ok,  i guess i know your problem but i doubt it will be completely fixed
>> by changing powermanagement behavior. Two logitech cams i tested is
>> really easy to confuse/brake/freeze. Just turn off the stream before it
>> will send first frame. It looks like it take longer to boot buildin
>> controller or image processor. On second (hot) start it take less time.
>> If the cam was suspended it need this boot time again. The problem, even
>> if we do hot start and turn of stream before first frame, like some apps
>> did, the cam will brake again. By disabling auto suspend, we will reduce
>> probability to brake it, but not fix it.
>>
>> Some times i have the splitimage issue too, but i can't 100% reproduce it.
> 
> So does your description of the problem explain why commit e1620d5
> causes this problem to happen 100% of the time on the second start, even
> though I cannot reproduce this problem at all before that commit?

Please note, i said "i guess", i'm not sure if it is same issue. With
3.5.0-rc5-00098-g9e85a6f i can't reproduce this issue at least after
fresh start. After long work some times i get some thing similar to your
description.

> Isn't
> that the mystery that still remains unsolved?  Do the usbmon logs not
> answer that question?

no. Same configuration sequence, same responses. I see only one
difference, on e1620d5 the cam needed longer to start streaming.  This
is know on other cams, but they work.

> Going back also to the patch I submitted, it seems (at least in my
> testing) that USB_QUIRK_RESET_RESUME does work around this issue
> consistently, at least for my webcam.

ok. the problem is, e1620d5 moves existing CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND from one
place to another. uvcvideo used autosuspend before. This is why this
quirk make no sense.

-- 
Regards,
Oleksij


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