Re: [PATCH 0/5] USB3 hub support refine

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:17:30AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Sarah Sharp wrote:
> 
> > If you (and Greg) doesn't mind, I'd like to queue these patches for
> > 2.6.39, rather than 2.6.40.  There are several OSV that are complaining
> > that the USB 3.0 hub patches break suspend when a USB 3.0 device is
> > plugged in behind a USB 3.0 hub.  As Alan Stern pointed out, Linus
> > really doesn't want new functionality to break suspend.  So although
> > these patches are larger, I think they need to get into 2.6.39.
> 
> Would it be feasible instead to include a simple band-aid change to
> 2.6.39, something that would permit the system to suspend even if USB-3
> hubs aren't handled properly?  Maybe power off all ports on external
> SuperSpeed hubs during suspend and then power them back on during
> resume?

That might work.  Andiry, is this something you could look into?

However, wouldn't we be powering off hard drives while their disks are
spinning?  Or were you thinking that instead of issuing a port suspend
command to the USB 3.0 hub when the device is supposed to be suspended,
to just power off the port instead with a clear port feature (port
power) command?

I'm not entirely sure how USB 3.0 hard drives are going to react to
having their port power turned off.  I suppose at that point they'll
migrate over to the USB 2.0 wires, since they all have external power
supplies anyway.  Then during resume, we would have to re-enable port
power for those ports when the USB 3.0 roothub is resumed.  Since the
USB 3.0 roothub should be resumed before any devices are reset on the
USB 2.0 roothub, I think this will work, but I'm skeptical that it's
going to be a smaller patchset that the current one Andiry created.

> Then the full fix could be merged in 2.6.40.

Hmm, I'm trying to figure out if there's anything in this patchset that
really qualifies as a bug fix, if we can solve the issue with devices
behind a USB 3.0 hub during system resume with a band-aid patch.

Andiry said that the warm reset patches were needed to make a USB 3.0
Kingston flash drive work:

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 02:54:01PM +0800, Xu, Andiry wrote:
> Link PM patches definitely need PLS report, but now I'm looking into a
> Kingston USB3.0 flash drive issue. When hot plug the device to the
> USB3 port, it cannot be detected. The port link goes into Recovery
> state, then into Inactive state. Current Linux driver does not know
> how to handle that state, and the emulation ends. According to USB3.0
> spec, the driver should issue a warm reset if this happens. I've
> verified that warm reset the port can transition it to U0 state and
> emulation will succeed. When I'm making the patches, I find that we
> need to get the USB3.0 roothub portion report the port status comply
> to the USB3.0 specification.

So Andiry, I think you're saying to fix the enumeration of this device,
we need patches 1 and 4 out of your patchset?

If we didn't take those patches, then this device won't work on 2.6.39.
But I suppose it's not a big deal if that fix gets delayed.

Sarah Sharp
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