Hi, People are aware of FTDI's FT232 serial port chips, and FT245 printer port chips, but they are actually more generic devices. There are serial port devices, and there are generic FIFO devices. (www.ftdichip.com) Worst of all, they all use default ID pair 0403:6001, which is now handled by the ftdi_sio driver. (Dual and quad versions have different IDs, handled by same driver - lattest bunch has very peculiar capabilities: JTAG, and SPI on serial port, same pins also serve as generic data FIFO...) Unfortunately a non-zero number of vendors are outputing hardware that use the hardware default ID pair :-( A distinguisher in between the devices with same ID codes could be USB device descriptor's iProduct string. That one is usually defined by the hardware vendor to be their actual product name. This relates to recent _audio_device_ case, where device maker apparently has used FTDI FIFO chip, and then just hacked things at Windows driver for it. Getting hardware makers to fix their device firmware is usually not an option, as much as one would like to. So, how to really separate devices that are treatable as serial ports, and at ID level identical devices that are something else entirely? Maybe this needs some new infrastructure, but I would consider at least following approaches: - Let multiple device drivers be bound on same ID pairs At device setup time do see if driver A can handle it, but if it says "not me", then try driver B, etc. - Bind device drivers on more than just the ID pair, like use also iProduct string, iSerial string, etc. What do you say? /Matti Aarnio -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html