On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 05:08:40PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > It looks like there is a use case that cannot be addressed by using > device_add_properties() and that's why you need this new function. > > Can you describe that use case, please, and explain what the problem > with using device_add_properties() in it is? The problem with device_add_properties() is that it gives false impression that the device properties are somehow directly attached to the devices, which is not true. Now, that should not be a major issue, but it seems that it is. I think Lee Jones basically used that as an argument to refuse changes (and pretty minor changes) that would have allowed us to use software nodes with the MFD drivers. Nevertheless, I was not planning to provide a replacement for it originally. We do in any case have the real issue caused by that device_remove_properties() call in device_del() which has to be fixed. I started to fix that by moving device_add_properties() under drivers/base/swnode.c so I can implement it like I've implemented now that new function, but after that when I started to tackle the second issue by removing the subsystem wrappers like platform_device_add_device_properties() and replacing them with things like platform_device_add_software_node() in order to give the drivers a chance to actually use software nodes, I realised that there isn't much use for device_add_properties() after that. Also, even though I'm not super happy about adding more API to this thing, this function - device_create_managed_software_node() - I do like. Not only is it implemented so that we don't have to rely on anything else in drivers core in order to achieve the lifetime link with the device, it is also much more descriptive. The function name alone does not leave any questions about what is going to happen if that function is called. You'll end up with a software node that just happens to be attached to the device. On top of those two things, by adding the new function it also gives me a nice stepping stone to do these changes in the normal stages: 1. Add feature/modification. 2. Convert users. 3. Cleanup. And finally, even though we may not have any users left for device_add_properties() after I have updated all the subsystems and drivers, this new function will still be useful. That is because, even though it can be used as a drop-in replacement for device_add_properties(), it does add that one small but important change. It allows the nodes created with it to be part of node hierarchy, and that alone is useful to me, and I'm planning on using that feature later. I'm sorry about the long explanation. Br, -- heikki