> we don't want PPP at all. It is just plain stupid and a total braindead > idea. Non of the GSM/UMTS networks talk PPP over the air interface or > actually anywhere in their stack. The PPP is just between the host OS > and the card. It is a pointless encapsulation of IP packets that comes > from the POTS stuff where PPP over a telephone line made sense. Well yes. A 3G USB modem is a lovely example of compatibility gone mad It runs an emulated PPP session over an emulated serial port over a serial port multiplex emulating multiple serial ports over an emulated serial port over a USB link which has perfectly good packet facilities into the Linux kernel which makes it look like a legacy modem device which is managed by a set of software tools written for 9600 baud modems Unfortunately fixing that has to start at the vendor firmware end, and that is a lot of interfaces for SMS, voice dialing, fax and god knows what else as well as data. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html