So this is a brown paper bag moment, I don't use usb-uas on my laptop, so the kernel always does the right thing (I've enabled it now I know about it) The router has usb-uas compiled as a module, but didn't have it installed, it's not one of the default ones it seems After installing kmod-usb-storage-uas everything kicked into life Sorry for the noise On 21 March 2018 at 17:55, Mike Lothian <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Lastly here's the lsusb -v and dmesg from 4.9.87 on the router without > the quirk added > > On 21 March 2018 at 17:50, Mike Lothian <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Also here's the kernel config for the router, it's now 4.9.87 >> >> >> >> On 21 March 2018 at 17:23, Menion <menion@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Yes that was the point. >>> Curious that the device worked fine in 17.01.4 and not in snapshot, >>> but in 17.01.4 do you remember if it went in UAS or USB-STORAGE mode? >>> I cannot answer here, but I am wondering if it is possible that if the >>> kernel is compiled without UAS support, then a device showing UASP >>> capability won't get enumerated at all instead of being downgraded to >>> usb-storage. >>> >>> 2018-03-21 18:19 GMT+01:00 Mike Lothian <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >>>> Sorry I'm not sure what you mean by that, would you like the output of >>>> lsusb -v before and after the quirk is added? And again from my >>>> laptop? >>>> >>>> I'd like to point the device worked fine when running a 4.4 kernel on >>>> LEDE 17.01.4 >>>> >>>> On 21 March 2018 at 17:10, Menion <menion@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Then it is so strange, it is completely dead from USB host perspective >>>>> in UASP mode >>>>> What lsusb shows when it is attached in UASP mode? >>>>> Can you test it with some "regular" host with USB 3.0, like a PC? >>>>> >>>>> 2018-03-21 18:07 GMT+01:00 Mike Lothian <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >>>>>> Sorry, yes that was me disconnecting the device and reconnecting it, >>>>>> just to confirm that it was the quirk that was fixing things (I might >>>>>> not have connected it into the same port) >>>>>> >>>>>> I am changing the quirks in the modules config and reattaching, >>>>>> modprobe on this device doesn't seem to let me specify options >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a USB3 caddy that has its own power supply, that you can put any >>>>>> SATA hard disk into, I currently have a 1.5TB drive in it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 21 March 2018 at 17:00, Menion <menion@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> I see a disconnect from port 4:1 of some un-enumerated device then >>>>>>> connect to port 2:1 with UAS blacklist: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [ 281.814757] usb 4-1: USB disconnect, device number 2 >>>>>>> [ 283.418292] usb 2-1: new SuperSpeed USB device number 2 using xhci-hcd >>>>>>> [ 482.153319] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, device number 2 >>>>>>> [ 484.250856] usb 2-1: UAS is blacklisted for this device, using >>>>>>> usb-storage instead >>>>>>> [ 484.250901] usb-storage 2-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected >>>>>>> [ 484.258055] usb-storage 2-1:1.0: Quirks match for vid 174c pid 55aa: c00000 >>>>>>> [ 484.264432] scsi host1: usb-storage 2-1:1.0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you peraphs changing the quirks in the modules config and reattach >>>>>>> the device? >>>>>>> Anyhow I see some strange reset from the USB host. What is this >>>>>>> device? Perhaps some self-powered external HDD? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2018-03-21 17:56 GMT+01:00 Mike Lothian <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >>>>>>>> It had both, as did my follow up, the follow up should be more clear though >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 21 March 2018 at 16:45, Menion <menion@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> You sent the dmesg with quirks :u enabled >>>>>>>>> We need the one without quirks :u, when the device takes UAS driver >>>>>>>>> Bye >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2018-03-21 17:41 GMT+01:00 Mike Lothian <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please find attached my dmesg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 21 March 2018 at 16:12, Oliver Neukum <oneukum@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Am Mittwoch, den 21.03.2018, 17:09 +0100 schrieb Greg KH: >>>>>>>>>>>> > I'm guessing it doesn't quite match up with the rules already in place >>>>>>>>>>>> > in uas-detect.h >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That device has a quirk already as a "normal" usb-storage device. >>>>>>>>>>>> Oliver added it back in 2013 with 32c37fc30c52 ("usb-storage: add quirk >>>>>>>>>>>> for mandatory READ_CAPACITY_16") >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That should cause different symptoms. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > Looks like it's an ASM1053 that can't do UAS >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, it's not a UAS device, is someone trying to recycle device ids to do >>>>>>>>>>>> different things now? That's not good :( >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The second interface looks like UAS though. The second interface looks >>>>>>>>>>> like UAS though. What exactly does happen when you ennumerate? >>>>>>>>>>> Dmesg please. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We may need some exotic logic for these devices. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Oliver >>>>>>>>>>> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html