On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:34:00AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> Hi Rob, >> >> here is the pull request you asked for, with no changes from the version >> that I posted last to the list. >> >> The following changes since commit 6ff33f3902c3b1c5d0db6b1e2c70b6d76fba357f: >> >> Linux 4.3-rc1 (2015-09-12 16:35:56 -0700) >> >> are available in the git repository at: >> >> git+ssh://git.collabora.co.uk/git/user/tomeu/linux.git >> on-demand-probes-for-next > > That's not a signed tag :( > > Anyway, I REALLY don't like this series (sorry for the delay in > reviewing them, normally I trust Rob's judgement...) We've seen a lot of attempts here. This is really the best solution so far in that it is simple, uses existing data from DT, and was low risk for breaking platforms (at least I thought it would be). Anyway, getting more exposure is why I've put it into -next. > I can't see adding calls like this all over the tree just to solve a > bus-specific problem, you are adding of_* calls where they aren't > needed, or wanted, at all. I think Linus W, Mark B, and I all said a similar thing initially in that dependencies should be handled in the driver core. We went down the path of making this not firmware (aka bus) specific and an earlier version had just that (with fwnode_* calls). That turned out to be pointless as the calling locations were almost always in DT specific code anyway. If you notice, the calls are next to other DT specific calls generally (usually a "get"). So yes, I'd prefer not to have to touch every subsystem, but we had to do that anyway to add DT support. We've generally split the DT code into the core (in drivers/of) and the binding specific (in subsystems). Extracting dependency information the DT is going to require binding specific knowledge, so subsystem changes are probably unavoidable. The alternative is we put binding specific knowledge into the core DT code to parse dependencies. > What is the root-problem of your delay in device probing? I read your > last patch series and I can't seem to figure out what the issue is that > this is solving in any "better" way from the existing deferred probing. It saves 2 seconds in the boot time as re-probing takes time. That alone seems compelling to me. Another downside to deferred probing is you have to touch every driver and subsystem to support it. This contains the problem to the subsystems. Rob -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html