On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Greg KH <greg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 02:40:15AM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Greg KH <greg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:23:55AM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Dan Williams <dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 11:56 +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Dan Williams <dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 16:11 +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> I wanted to understand what is going on the kernel-side when >> >> >> >>> connecting to the Internet via a Huawei E173 USB web-stick (3rd >> >> >> >>> Generation: UMTS / HSPA). >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Especially the correlation between the diverse USB/NET kernel-drivers >> >> >> >>> and how the networking is setup. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > [ Sitting in front of a foreign Windows machine ] >> >> >> > >> >> >> > [ CC Aleksander ] >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Hi Dan, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > sorry for the late (and short) response. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > AFAICS you have given a "skeleton" for a "usb-wwan-networking" >> >> >> > documentation :-). >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Personally, I would like to take into account some kernel-config >> >> >> > options and some more things. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I started with documenting... >> >> >> >> >> >> I have still some difficulties in understanding USB WWAN Networking. >> >> >> So, this is what I revealed... >> >> >> >> >> >> ##### USB: HUAWEI E173 3G/UMTS/HSPA INTERNET STICK >> >> >> >> >> >> ### USB-NETWORKING AND WWAN SETUP >> >> >> CONFIG_USB_USBNET=m <--- usb networking >> >> >> CONFIG_USB_NET_CDCETHER=m <--- usb-wwan (net) configuration >> >> >> CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_WWAN=m <--- usb-wwan (serial) configuration >> >> >> CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_OPTION=m <--- usb-serial driver called "option" >> >> > >> >> > Most WWAN devices actually require option, because most WWAN devices >> >> > have "serial" ports (even if they aren't used for PPP), and 'option' is >> >> > the driver that handles this. The 'option' name is historic, but the >> >> > driver should really be called something like 'wwan-serial-generic' or >> >> > something like that. >> >> >ö" >> >> >> >> Is there sth. against renaming the "option" driver to "wwan-serial-generic"? >> > >> > Yes, people's scripts might break that are hard-coded to use the >> > "option" driver. >> > >> >> As far as I read on LKML... breaking userspace is a reason not to do >> such changes. > > Exactly. > >> That's really a reason not to break "handmade" scripts on some machines? > > Yes. > >> As this is new to me... is that documented? > > It's our "culture" :) > OK. >> Surely, it's fretful to change scripts, but life is change. >> For me there is a more reasonable thing... Did you grep for "option" >> pattern in the kernel sources? >> Try.... :-). > > Oh I know, I wrote the first version of this driver and named it this :) > Ah, IIRC the company was called so. >> > greg "here, have a vowel, they are cheap" k-h >> >> Hmm, being a non-English native, I am not sure to get this... >> What about languages from mostly Eastern countries having so much >> consonants in a single word like Russian, Polish, etc. >> Not every language is rich like German which has WOWels like "ä" (ae) >> "ö" (oe) "ü" (ue). > > I was referring to your "sth." abbreviation above. > Hmm, I thought this is a "normal" abbreviation. Maybe I should not mix IRC and Email writing styles. Thanks for your comments. - Sedat - P.S.: /me was reading about the systemd transition (now default init-system) and reading about Joey Hess leaving Debian, Damn and I initiated the Debian systemd wiki. If I ever knew... Life is change and neat and polite people died (I lost my parents the last two years). > thanks, > > greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
