On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 02:40:15AM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Greg KH <greg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:23:55AM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Dan Williams <dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > On Fri, 2014-11-14 at 11:56 +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Dan Williams <dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 16:11 +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote: > >> >> >>> Hi, > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I wanted to understand what is going on the kernel-side when > >> >> >>> connecting to the Internet via a Huawei E173 USB web-stick (3rd > >> >> >>> Generation: UMTS / HSPA). > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Especially the correlation between the diverse USB/NET kernel-drivers > >> >> >>> and how the networking is setup. > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > [ Sitting in front of a foreign Windows machine ] > >> >> > > >> >> > [ CC Aleksander ] > >> >> > > >> >> > Hi Dan, > >> >> > > >> >> > sorry for the late (and short) response. > >> >> > > >> >> > AFAICS you have given a "skeleton" for a "usb-wwan-networking" > >> >> > documentation :-). > >> >> > > >> >> > Personally, I would like to take into account some kernel-config > >> >> > options and some more things. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> I started with documenting... > >> >> > >> >> I have still some difficulties in understanding USB WWAN Networking. > >> >> So, this is what I revealed... > >> >> > >> >> ##### USB: HUAWEI E173 3G/UMTS/HSPA INTERNET STICK > >> >> > >> >> ### USB-NETWORKING AND WWAN SETUP > >> >> CONFIG_USB_USBNET=m <--- usb networking > >> >> CONFIG_USB_NET_CDCETHER=m <--- usb-wwan (net) configuration > >> >> CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_WWAN=m <--- usb-wwan (serial) configuration > >> >> CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_OPTION=m <--- usb-serial driver called "option" > >> > > >> > Most WWAN devices actually require option, because most WWAN devices > >> > have "serial" ports (even if they aren't used for PPP), and 'option' is > >> > the driver that handles this. The 'option' name is historic, but the > >> > driver should really be called something like 'wwan-serial-generic' or > >> > something like that. > >> >ö" > >> > >> Is there sth. against renaming the "option" driver to "wwan-serial-generic"? > > > > Yes, people's scripts might break that are hard-coded to use the > > "option" driver. > > > > As far as I read on LKML... breaking userspace is a reason not to do > such changes. Exactly. > That's really a reason not to break "handmade" scripts on some machines? Yes. > As this is new to me... is that documented? It's our "culture" :) > Surely, it's fretful to change scripts, but life is change. > For me there is a more reasonable thing... Did you grep for "option" > pattern in the kernel sources? > Try.... :-). Oh I know, I wrote the first version of this driver and named it this :) > > greg "here, have a vowel, they are cheap" k-h > > Hmm, being a non-English native, I am not sure to get this... > What about languages from mostly Eastern countries having so much > consonants in a single word like Russian, Polish, etc. > Not every language is rich like German which has WOWels like "ä" (ae) > "ö" (oe) "ü" (ue). I was referring to your "sth." abbreviation above. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html