Re: [GIT PULL 4/8] clk: tegra: Changes for v4.2-rc1

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On 06/20/15 23:41, Michael Turquette wrote:
Quoting Michael Turquette (2015-06-18 16:41:26)
Quoting Mikko Perttunen (2015-05-28 00:03:01)
On 05/27/2015 10:50 PM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
On 05/21, Mikko Perttunen wrote:

Hi Stephen,

the way the EMC clock rate is set in hardware is similar to other
clocks, i.e. there's a register and you write the new divider and parent
id to it. However, with EMC, you cannot just do this any time you want;
writing to the register initiates a state machine in the clock hardware
that changes a large number of other parameters regarding DRAM timings
as well. These parameters need to be programmed into shadow registers
before the rate change write is done. This means that both the new
divisor and the parent must be written in the same register write.

The CCF has a callback, set_rate_and_parent, which allows for both to be
passed to the driver at the same time. However, it also requires
set_rate and set_parent to be implemented, which the EMC driver cannot do.

Ok so we should change the framework to allow drivers to only
implement set_rate_and_parent and use that in set_rate and
set_parent implementations if it's the only option available. Or
is there a problem if CCF allows clk_set_parent() on the EMC
clock by calling set_rate_and_parent() with the new parent and
whatever recalc_rate returns for the new parent's rate going into
the clock?

There isn't really a problem, but the EMC driver cannot implement this
operation sensibly so it would just always return an error if the (rate,
parent) pair given to set_rate_and_parent() doesn't exactly match one of
the entries specified in device tree.



Furthermore, the CCF cannot help with parent selection for the EMC clock
at all. The parent for each rate is selected by the board designer.

I'm not following this part. The CCF mostly asks clock providers
what parent should be used when clk_set_rate() is called.

Yep, that much is fine; what I was alluding was the above (set_parent
and set_rate_and_parent with an unlisted (rate, parent) pair are invalid)



There is also the issue that sometimes, the EMC driver cannot directly
switch to the target (rate, parent) pair; instead it is necessary to
switch first to another pair we call a backup timing. In this situation,
we temporarily have a parent that is neither the one we had before the
set_rate call or the one it will be after. Especially, if the switch to
the backup timing succeeds but the following switch to the target timing
fails, then without the reparent call the parent in hardware would be
left inconsistent with the software state.

Yes, I've sent a patch a while ago to support an idea of a "safe
parent" or a backup timing that can be used while a clock is
reprogrammed. Mike has also proposed the concept of "coordinated
clock rates" which would do something similar and allow clock
providers to control complicated rate transitions themselves. It
seems that we may be able to use the "safe parent" concept here,
where first we switch to some other parent, call the set_rate*
op, and then switch the parent back if we're not already using
the parent that we should be using.

While I'm not sure how much sophistication is warranted in the CCF, for
our use case this backup timing has to be able to be a function of the
timing we are leaving and preferably also the target timing. Also, as
usual, the backup timings are (rate, parent) pairs, and just changing
rate or just changing parent are both impossible.


This sort of thing becomes important for things like per-clock
locking where we need to know how the clock tree is going to
change *before* we modify the clock tree. If we go back and forth
between the clock providers and the clock tree while we're in the
middle of making irreversible changes to the hardware, we may get
stuck in a situation where we need to lock more clocks and then
we may need to undo hardware changes.


Yeah, makes sense.

Do you think you can still pull this patchset? There's other code in
linux-next that depends on it and I'd prefer to have a working driver in
the kernel; if/when the improvements to CCF materialize we could update
the driver to use them.

I'm not really sure what to do with this PR. This seems to fall into the
same category as the Exynos "cpu clocks" series: you have a complex
sequence that requires multiple clock nodes to be changes in a
coordinated fashion.

I've decided to pull this in the interest of fairness. I'm taking the
Exynos cpu clock patches, which will need to be updated in the future to
use some new infrastructure for coordinating rate changes across
multiple clock nodes. I'm merging the EMC stuff with the same
expectation that it will need to migrate to the new infrastructure when
it becomes available and we'll get rid of clk_hw_reparent.

Sound good?

Sounds good! Please keep us informed and once the framework changes land we'll fix up this one.


Regards,
Mike


Thanks,
Mikko.


I'm working on some core infrastructure to fix this. I'd like to get
that on the list asap and possibly merged for 4.3. I think it can
benefit your case and remove the need to export clk_hw_reparent, which
is pretty nasty.

What exactly will break if this is not pulled? I appreciate your offer
to update this driver when the core changes are merged, but I would
prefer to do it the right way first, instead of fixing up something that
is already merged after the fact.

Regards,
Mike


Thanks,
Mikko.
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