On 17 December 2013 12:20, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 17/12/13 12:04, Ulf Hansson wrote: >> On 17 December 2013 09:17, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 17/12/13 01:18, Stephen Warren wrote: >>>> On 12/13/2013 03:43 PM, Stephen Warren wrote: >>>>> On one of my eMMC devices, I see the following results from calling >>>>> mmc_do_calc_max_discard() with various parameters: >>>>> >>>>> [ 3.057263] MMC_DISCARD_ARG max_discard 1 >>>>> [ 3.057266] MMC_ERASE_ARG max_discard 4096 >>>>> [ 3.057267] MMC_TRIM_ARG max_discard 1 >>>>> >>>>> This causes mmc_calc_max_discard() to return 1, which makes the discard >>>>> IOCTL extremely slow. >>>> >>>> Further investigation shows that if I make a few hacks that essentially >>>> revert e056a1b5b67b "mmc: queue: let host controllers specify maximum >>>> discard timeout": >>>> >>>> diff --git a/drivers/mmc/card/queue.c b/drivers/mmc/card/queue.c >>>> index 357bbc54fe4b..e66af930d0e3 100644 >>>> --- a/drivers/mmc/card/queue.c >>>> +++ b/drivers/mmc/card/queue.c >>>> @@ -167,13 +167,15 @@ static void mmc_queue_setup_discard(struct >>>> request_queue *q, >>>> return; >>>> >>>> queue_flag_set_unlocked(QUEUE_FLAG_DISCARD, q); >>>> - q->limits.max_discard_sectors = max_discard; >>>> + q->limits.max_discard_sectors = UINT_MAX; >>>> if (card->erased_byte == 0 && !mmc_can_discard(card)) >>>> q->limits.discard_zeroes_data = 1; >>>> q->limits.discard_granularity = card->pref_erase << 9; >>>> /* granularity must not be greater than max. discard */ >>>> +#if 0 >>>> if (card->pref_erase > max_discard) >>>> q->limits.discard_granularity = 0; >>>> +#endif >>>> if (mmc_can_secure_erase_trim(card)) >>>> queue_flag_set_unlocked(QUEUE_FLAG_SECDISCARD, q); >>>> } >>>> >>>> I end up with: >>>> >>>> $ cat /sys/.../block/mmcblk1/queue# cat discard_granularity >>>> 2097152 >>>> $ cat /sys/.../block/mmcblk1/queue# cat discard_max_bytes >>>> 2199023255040 >>>> $ cat /sys/.../block/mmcblk1/queue# cat discard_zeroes_data >>>> 1 >>>> >>>> With those values, mke2fs is fast, and I validated that "blkdiscard" >>>> works; I filled a large partition with /dev/urandom, executed >>>> "blkdiscard" on the 4M at the start, and saw zeroes when reading the >>>> discarded part back. >>>> >>>> This implies that the issue is simply the operation of >>>> mmc_calc_max_discard(), rather than the eMMC device mis-reporting its >>>> discard abilities, doesn't it? >>> >>> No. >>> >>> The underlying problem is a combination of: >>> a) JEDEC specified very large timeouts for erase operations e.g. can be >>> minutes for large erases >>> b) SDHCI controllers have been implemented with high frequency timeout >>> clocks which limit the maximum timeout to a few seconds >>> c) It is not possible to disable the timeout on SDHCI >>> >>> What a) means is that you can get away with much larger erases than you can >>> specify the timeout for - which is what you have discovered. >>> >>> To understand the timeouts, you should manually do the calculations. >>> >>> Also note, that using HC Erase Size may help (MMC_CAP2_HC_ERASE_SZ), but >>> beware of the partitioning implications of changing that. >>> >>> The best solution is to change the hardware to use the lowest possible >>> frequency timeout clock e.g. a 1KHz timeout clock could support timeouts of >>> up to 36 hours. >> >> Don't know the details about the limitations for SDHCI, but I guess >> similar exists for other controllers as well. > > Not necessarily. For example omap_hsmmc just disables the timeout for erase > operations. > Interesting! :-) Actually, it is disabling the data time out and keeping the command time out. >> >> I do get the impression that we have got a problem in the mmc >> core/block layer for how erase/trim/discard timeouts are being >> handled. >> >> I don't think the mmc hw-controller should be waiting for the R1B >> response from the CMD38 as long as this "timeout" we are discussing >> here. According to the spec, at least how I interpret it, the card >> should respond rather quickly to CMD38, then it will assert the DAT0 >> line to indicate busy. >> >> The total time the card is allowed to stay busy, that is what the >> timeout specifies. We may either use a mmc hw-controller busy >> detection mechanism or send CMD13 to poll for status. The latter is >> somewhat already being handled in mmc_do_erase(), but we are using >> "MMC_CORE_TIMEOUT_MS" instead of the correct timeout. >> >> Kind regards >> Ulf Hansson >> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-mmc" in >>> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> >> > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-tegra" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html