On 23.07.2021 12:13, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: > EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe > > > ForwardedMessage.eml > > Subject: > Re: [PULL] Add variants of devm_clk_get for prepared and enabled clocks > enabled clocks > From: > Uwe Kleine-König <u.kleine-koenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: > 23.07.2021, 12:13 > > To: > Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxx> > CC: > Wolfram Sang <wsa@xxxxxxxxxx>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@xxxxxxxxxx>, > "linux-rtc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-rtc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, > "linux-pwm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-pwm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Alexandre Belloni > <alexandre.belloni@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Claudiu Beznea > <claudiu.beznea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, > Michael Turquette <mturquette@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Nicolas Ferre > <nicolas.ferre@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "linux-spi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" > <linux-spi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, > Ludovic Desroches <ludovic.desroches@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Mark Brown > <broonie@xxxxxxxxxx>, Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx>, Alexandru > Ardelean <aardelean@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" > <kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@xxxxxxxxxx>, > Andrew Morton <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Lee Jones > <lee.jones@xxxxxxxxxx>, "linux-clk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" > <linux-clk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "linux-arm-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" > <linux-arm-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Linus Torvalds > <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Hello, > > [adding Linus and lkml to Cc: and adding some more context] > > On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 10:21:23PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: >> given that I don't succeed in getting any feedback for my patch set, I'm >> trying with a pull request today. > This is for a series that is currently in v7 and didn't get any feedback > at all yet. The history is: > > v1: 2020-10-13, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20201013082132.661993-1-u.kleine-koenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > no feedback at all > > v2: 2021-03-01, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210301110821.1445756-1-uwe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > kernel test robot identified some issues > > v3: 2021-03-01, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210301135053.1462168-1-u.kleine-koenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > I added a few driver patches to show the benefit. (However in a way > that the autobuilders don't understand, so there were some false > positive build failure reports.) > > v4: 2021-03-30, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210330181755.204339-1-u.kleine-koenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Got some feedback for the converted drivers by the respective > maintainers. Some were indifferent, some found it good > > v5: 2021-04-22, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210422065726.1646742-1-u.kleine-koenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fixed a problem in one of the driver changes (i2c-imx), no feedback > apart from pointing out a few typos, silence from the clk > maintainers > > v6: 2021-04-26, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210426141730.2826832-1-u.kleine-koenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Just the typos fixed, no feedback > > v6 resend: 2021-05-10, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210510061724.940447-1-u.kleine-koenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > no changes in code. Got some feedback from Jonathan Cameron > > v7: 2021-05-10, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210510174142.986250-1-u.kleine-koenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Adress Jonathan's feedback, recieved some more acks from non-clk > people > > pull request: 2021-07-09, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-clk/20210609202123.u5rmw7al4x3rrvun@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 11:26:58AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: >> On Thursday, July 22, 2021, Wolfram Sang <wsa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>>>> What about adding gkh to the list explaining the situation to him? >>>> Greg doesn't like devm_ stuff. >>>> >>>> I already asked Arnd who doesn't want to interfere and akpm who didn't >>>> react either up to now. >>> Wow, okay, that is frustrating. >> The situation simply shows the process gap and One Maintainer nowadays is >> far from enough to satisfy demands. > Technically there are two maintainers for drivers/clk, Michael Turquette > and Stephen Boyd. It seems Michael is MIA and Stephen doesn't have the > capacity to address all requests. > >> What I think about is that we need to escalate this to Linus and >> others and elaborate the mechanisms how to squeeze a new (additional) >> maintainer when the original one is not responsive. Let’s say some >> procedural steps. Otherwise we doomed because of human factor. > Assuming there was some process for this, is there someone who is > willing to take responsibility here? Hi, In the last year I worked on AT91 clock drivers and I would be available for taking responsibility beyond AT91 clocks (if everyone's OK with this), in whatever form the current maintainers and people in the audience would agree, if any (co-maintainer or other forms that could be useful). The idea is to help things progress as I also have patches waiting for feedback on clock mailing list for almost 6 months. Let me know if I can be helpful. Thank you, Claudiu Beznea > > Best regards > Uwe > > -- Pengutronix e.K. | Uwe Kleine-König | Industrial Linux Solutions | > https://www.pengutronix.de/ | >