On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:46:00PM +0200, Sebastian Reichel wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 07:41:51AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 01:20:16AM +0200, Sebastian Reichel wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 07:46:05PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 05:02:42PM +0200, Sebastian Reichel wrote: > > > > > General Electric Healthcare's PPD has a secondary processor from > > > > > NXP's Kinetis K20 series. That device has two SPI chip selects: > > > > > > > > > > The main interface's behaviour depends on the loaded firmware > > > > > and is currently unused. > > > > > > > > > > The secondary interface can be used to update the firmware using > > > > > EzPort protocol. This is implemented by this driver using the > > > > > kernel's firmware API. It's not done during probe time, since > > > > > the device has non-volatile memory and flashing lasts almost 3 > > > > > minutes. > > > > > > > > In thinking about this some more, why does it matter? Spin up a > > > > workqueue when probing and do the firmware loading then. That way you > > > > do not end up creating yet another custom user/kernel api just to do > > > > something as trivial as loading the firmware for a device. > > > > > > > > And I think the firmware loader even handles async loading, or at least > > > > it used to, maybe not anymore, it's a complex api, I recommend reading > > > > the docs... > > > > > > Flashing the firmware during boot instead of on-demand is not > > > a good idea for two reasons: > > > > > > 1. This will wear the flash memory of the microcontroller for no > > > good reason. > > > > Why would you boot with this hardware and not want the firmware > > loaded? > > As written in the commit message this code is updateing the firmware > in non-volatile memory, so the previously flashed FW will be used > until a new one is flashed. > > The datasheet for the memory being programmed states, that it has a > guaranteed programming endurance of 10.000 times. So programming it > at every boot instead of manually when a new FW should be flashed > (i.e. once every few years) shortens the device life time considerably. Ah, ok, that was not obvious at all. This is much more like a "BIOS update" in that it is infrequent. You might want to document the heck out of this so others are not confused like me. thanks, greg k-h