On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:41 PM Mark Brown <broonie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What people think they were sold was the idea that they shouldn't have > to write driver code or upstream things, something with more AML like > capabilities (not realising that AML works partly because ACPI hugely > constrains system design). This makes a lot of sense. I suppose what we need to think about is the bigger question of why people/companies/managers are so worried about working upstream that they will go to lengths to avoid it and jump at any chance of raising a wall of abstraction between their internal development and the in-kernel software development. I think of this as vendor/community couples therapy or something, there is some form of deep disconnect or mistrust going on at times and having worked on both ends myself I would think I could understand it but I can't. Yours, Linus Walleij