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Best,
--FC 

> 
>  Kirk
> 
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2024, Frank Carmickle wrote:
> 
>> Greetings Kirk Et Al,
>> 
>> Does
>> 
>> killall -1 espeakup
>> 
>> work for you, when espeakup hangs? It works for me.
>> 
>> Are you seeing espeakup hang on bare metal systems? I see it hang quite frequently when running on a virtual machine, but I have not seen it have on bare metal as of yet. I spend a lot less time running espeakup on bare metal, so that may be why.
>> 
>> There was quite some discussion about this issue, on the Debian Accessibility list, over the last year. I'd really like to see this issue get sorted. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Best,
>> --FC
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2024, at 16:46, Kirk Reiser <kirk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, try this it's basically a one liner. The reason you can't
>>> restart espeakup is because it doesn't actually die, so it has to be
>>> killed off before restarting it.
>>> 
>>> ```
>>> #!/bin/bash
>>> 
>>> killall -9 espeakup; espeakup
>>> 
>>> ```
>>> 
>>> My bash script is named respeakup but you can name it anything you like, of course.
>>> 
>>> Kirk
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's entirely possible espeakup is crashing.  When this happens, I can't
>>>> restart espeakup either so end up having to reboot to regain control of
>>>> the system.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
>>>> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.
>>>> Please use in that order."
>>>> Ed Howdershelt 1940.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, Kirk Reiser wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jude: This may be a silly question, but are you sure it's speakup
>>>>> crashing? Often, espeakup dies here and so I have a simple script to
>>>>> kill it off and restart espeakup. I haven''t had speakup itself hang
>>>>> the system for quite a while.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kirk
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Every so often speakup crashes on my computer.
>>>>>> I am running a recent version of Jenux so systemd is in use here.
>>>>>> What I would like to know is a procedure once the system has been rebooted
>>>>>> to locate any crash messages speakup may have left in logs.  pipewire is
>>>>>> running the sound system along with alsa here and there's necessary
>>>>>> pulseaudio artifacts pipewire uses on the system.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
>>>>>> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>>>>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.
>>>>>> Please use in that order."
>>>>>> Ed Howdershelt 1940.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 






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