Re: SPF FAILED: MAY BE MALICIOUS Re: slightly ot: email options revisited?

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Hi,
Alpine 2.26 has support for most modern email setups.
I suggest installing that as a user on your shell account and let it talk to some outside mail server e.g. gmail.
Not ideal, but IMHO workable.
Regards, Willem



On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, Janina Sajka wrote:

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The standards Jason mentioned have been in place for years. To my mind
that would not be excused by personal emergency.

As someone who loves command line shell functionality, I can well
appreciate it's attraction for others. I do believe there are still
options for people who choose to subscribe to a shell service rather than
administer their own servers. Were that me I believe I would first consider Panix.com. As I recall Panix operates on Linux where shell world operates on BSD. That wouldn't block implementing the mail standards Jason mentions, but may prove more helpful to individuals when using the CLI.

Good luck, Karen! Let us know how this goes, please. I'd be interested
on how you land over this.

Janina

Karen Lewellen writes:
As shared, I do not know what is preventing Luke from  making these changes.
My last understanding is that his mother is ill.



On Sun, 2 Jun 2024, Jason J.G. White wrote:


On 1/6/24 23:37, Karen Lewellen wrote:
 seasoning my question this time is the  fact that in March, most major
 email pockets, Apple, Google, Yahoo, all started requiring email addresses
 to  carry an   identifying code that matches the actual host, you
 @you.com has a code insuring that the email is coming from a place called
 you.com
 Goal is to keep spam from using hosts as a cover.

You need to use a server that properly supports the DKIM, SPF and DMARC
standards, otherwise, recipients are more likely to classify your
messages as spam. This is reality. To handle mailing list posts, the ARC
standard should also be implemented.

Since I run my own mail server, it is compatible with everything,
including Mutt, Alpine and other client-side software that Speakup users
are likely to want. Commercial providers are increasingly complicating
the authentication process, for legitimate reasons, hence anyone working
from the Linux console will find it increasingly hard to connect, though
not impossible.






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