I have wondered if screenreaders are using the NG one or not, such as Orca. Orca just calls it eSpeak. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx> To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Didier Spaier" <didier@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2022 7:31 PM Subject: Re: change eSpeak Default Voice espeak-ng is a fork off espeak and intended to be a more modern replacement for espeak. So which one is run is important. Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Sun, 4 Dec 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > Well espeak is espeak, no matter what flavor of Linux it's on, Linux is > Linux. > I imagined the only differences between distros would be it's location. > And I do appreciate it when people give a real answer, rather than just > directing me where to look it up. > Or is help only reserved for those who strive to make Linux their main > source of computing? > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Didier Spaier" <didier@xxxxxxxx> > To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2022 3:23 AM > Subject: Re: change eSpeak Default Voice > > > Hello, > > answer in line. > > Le 04/12/2022 ? 06:14, K0LNY_Glenn a ?crit : > > Well Linux is not my main operating system, and I think it's a fair > > question > > to an email list. > > It would have been a fair question if asked in the right list, BUT this > one > if > primarily about the speakup kernel driver, rather than software that make > use of > it, like speakup or speechd-up. > > Further you should have stated which distribution you are using and if you > were > using espeakup or speechd-up, which would have allowed to give you an > adapted > answer. > > You can learn how to ask questions the smart way reading this: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > That is the biggest problem with Linux users, they think they are above > > helping people who aren't into that operating system as much as they > > are. > > Is that how grateful you are for people who spend their time, of which > they > have > already not enough to do all they need to, to try to help you? > > > In my opinion, the only question that shouldn't be asked about on a list > > like this, is one that is repeatedly asked, as folks should save useful > > information that comes in through these lists, like I do, for later > > looking > > up the information already saved. > > Again, only if the question is properly asked and in the right channel, > see > above. > > > But there is so little traffic on these Linux lists, that I can only > > imagine > > that people have given up asking for guidance. > > > And the suggestion to a list member to google something, rather than > > helping, is ludicrous, because the information you get from Google > > searches, is provided by lists like this, where people have asked the > > question before, and therefore, if questions don't get answered on these > > lists, then Google won't find answers for people searching on-line. > > What? Nobody suggested you google anything, just to read the documentation > provided with your software, in this case at least using the "man" utility > installed in your system. > > > I have gotten some help here, but I don't understand why people bother > > to > > reply, or even be on a list if they don't want to help others. > > This very unfair statement convince me that we were wrong wasting our time > trying to help you. I won't do this mistake again. > > Good luck, > Didier > > >