Re: hopefully some help with AntiX

[chrys <chrys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Howdy,

its here:
https://www.freelists.org/list/fenrir-screenreader

cheers chrys

Am 27.08.22 um 19:41 schrieb Karen Lewellen:
> Hi chrys,
> Where might I find information about the list?
> thanks,
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022, Linux A11y wrote:
>
> > Howdy glenn,
> >
> > Nah, you can download the source from github just as zip or tar. 
> > Specialy the releases i did. See here:
> >
> > https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir/archive/refs/tags/1.9.7.1.tar.gz
> >
> > You can just unpack and run it.
> >
> > You are using the system just with OCR? Respect.
> >
> > Cheers chrys
> >
> >
> > Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> >
> > > Am 27.08.2022 um 18:00 schrieb K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email>:
> > >
> > > 
> > > If Fenrir requires git, that is a problem, because git is not on 
> > > AntiX, and I tried to apt install it, and it cannot find it.
> > > I am wondering if the errors are related to git.
> > > I'm using OCR on the screen, so it isn't easy to obtain the 
> > > messages, and impossible to save them.
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Linux A11y
> > > To: K0LNY_Glenn
> > > Cc: speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Didier Spaier
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 10:50 AM
> > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > >
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > > > Well I ran check-dependencies.py and it gave a couple mysterious 
> > > > > errors,
> > > What errors you get? Fenrir starts for testing also just from git 
> > > folder without any need to install. But it requires the needed 
> > > dependencys and the correct pulse setup.
> > > See readme section pulseaudio.
> > > https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir#configure-pulseaudio
> > >
> > > Also this is the speakup list and people tend to flame if someone is 
> > > „advertising“ different software. To prevent this you can register 
> > > to fenrirs mailing list to get useful help. We will get it run for 
> > > sure.
> > >
> > > Cheers chrys
> > >
> > > > Am 27.08.2022 um 17:37 schrieb K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email>:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Didier,
> > > > I did try to join that forum about a week ago, and never got a 
> > > > confirmation
> > > > for the forum.
> > > > I also contacted someone associated with it and asked why 
> > > > accessibility
> > > > wasn't built in.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Didier Spaier" <didier@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 12:22 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Installing a package intended for another distribution can work... But
> > > > oftentimes does not.
> > > >
> > > > If not yet done, I suggest that you post your issue in this forum:
> > > > https://www.antixforum.com/
> > > > Caveat: I do not know if it is accessible with a screen reader.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Dider
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le 27/08/2022 à 15:06, K0LNY_Glenn a écrit :
> > > > > Well I found espeak-ng for Debian Buster here:
> > > > > https://packages.debian.org/buster/espeak-ng
> > > > > The file I downloaded was:
> > > > > espeak-ng_1.49.2+dfsg-8+deb10u1.debian.tar.xz
> > > > > Looking in the archive, there are some .install files, but I 
> > > > > didn't find
> > > > > any
> > > > > .sh files, so I don't know which file to use to get espeak 
> > > > > installed on
> > > > > this
> > > > > system.
> > > > > Or if there is a .deb for RhVoice, that would work too, but did I 
> > > > > download
> > > > > the wrong espeak-ng file for installing it?
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glenn
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>
> > > > > To: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx>; "Gregory Nowak"
> > > > > <greg@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > > > > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 9:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well I ran check-dependencies.py and it gave a couple mysterious 
> > > > > errors,
> > > > > but
> > > > > it didn't help.
> > > > > I ran install.sh again.
> > > > > I ran sudo fenrir and again it only gave me the startup tone.
> > > > > It acts like there is no TTS for it to use.
> > > > > Glenn
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; "Gregory Nowak" 
> > > > > <greg@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > > > > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 9:55 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Also sysctl enable fenrir.service or is it 
> > > > > fenrirscreenreader.service then
> > > > > sysctl start fenrir.service or sysctl start 
> > > > > fenrirscreenreader.service.
> > > > > If a service is missing systemd will let you know about it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
> > > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > >
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well I ran install.sh on the system, and pressed enter where it 
> > > > > > said to
> > > > > > proceed, and it said was finished, and it said to type
> > > > > > sudo fenrir
> > > > > > to test it, and all I can get is the two-tone sound when fenrir 
> > > > > > starts,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > no TTS.
> > > > > > Should have that installed espeak or espeak-ng?
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; "Gregory Nowak" 
> > > > > > <greg@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > > > > > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 8:27 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For now and not forever, why not do apt purge ufw?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
> > > > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > > > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then all 1000 ports show up in nmap as closed.
> > > > > > > So it seems if I allow a port in ufw, it shows up as closed, but 
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > filtered.
> > > > > > > So filtered means ufw is running, and if 22 gets allowed, it is not
> > > > > > > filtered, but still closed.
> > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; "Gregory Nowak" 
> > > > > > > <greg@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > > > > > > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 7:12 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What happens if ufw --disable is run then the offending computer 
> > > > > > > gets
> > > > > > > rebooted?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
> > > > > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > > > > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've considered that, and if I can get any port to open, I will 
> > > > > > > > gladly
> > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > telnet.
> > > > > > > > Hell, if I could open all 1000 ports now, I would!
> > > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 7:01 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 02:06:13PM -0500, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On the antiX I did
> > > > > > > > > sudo netcat -l 22
> > > > > > > > > and then on the pine 64, I did sudo nc 10.248.1.143 22
> > > > > > > > > and it does not seem to connect.
> > > > > > > > > I wonder if it is because I am using 22 to get from my windows to
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Pine64, in order to go linux to linux.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Port 22 is a privileged port. You should consider using 1024 or
> > > > > > > > higher. If the listening port is open on the firewall, the 
> > > > > > > > commands
> > > > > > > > you gave above should connect. If you type something on the client
> > > > > > > > side, you should see it typed on the antiX machine, and the 
> > > > > > > > other way
> > > > > > > > round. This will however not give you a login terminal. To do 
> > > > > > > > that,
> > > > > > > > you need something that handles logins to listen on your 
> > > > > > > > netcat. This
> > > > > > > > isn't something I've done, so can't give you more directions 
> > > > > > > > here. If
> > > > > > > > you don't care about the connection being secure, which you 
> > > > > > > > don't seem
> > > > > > > > to, you might as well try:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > apt install telnetd
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and open tcp 23 on your firewall.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 04:12:28PM -0500, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Well I thought I'd try iptables again.
> > > > > > > > > I finally got it to run without any errors, that long iptables
> > > > > > > > > command
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > got
> > > > > > > > > earlier.
> > > > > > > > > But nmap still sees no ports open on that host.
> > > > > > > > > Prior to running iptables, I tried to apt install it, and the
> > > > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > that I'm already running the latest.
> > > > > > > > > So I needed to restart iptables with
> > > > > > > > > sudo service iptables restart
> > > > > > > > > and it can find no service iptables.
> > > > > > > > > I retyped it several times to be sure there was no typos.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is to be expected, iptables is not a system service.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I tried
> > > > > > > > > sudo systemctl restart iptables
> > > > > > > > > and the system cannot find systemctl
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is antiX running sysvinit, openrc, or something else? This is
> > > > > > > > something the antiX documentation should tell you. What does it 
> > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > for PID1 or init?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > question:
> > > > > > > > > If I reboot, if the long iptables command worked, will it 
> > > > > > > > > stick if I
> > > > > > > > > reboot?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 05:57:37PM -0500, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Well it seems ufw is there, but it must not be running
> > > > > > > > > automatically,
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > does not fix the port problem.
> > > > > > > > > I did
> > > > > > > > > sudo ufw allow ssh
> > > > > > > > > it said tcp port allowed
> > > > > > > > > or something like that
> > > > > > > > > so I checked on the other computer with nmap
> > > > > > > > > 100 ports closed
> > > > > > > > > So I did sudo ufw restart
> > > > > > > > > and the other computer said 999 ports filtered tcp port 22 
> > > > > > > > > closed.
> > > > > > > > > I've done iptables too, but that does not stay after a reboot.
> > > > > > > > > if I do sudo ufw status
> > > > > > > > > it shows tcp port 22 allow
> > > > > > > > > but it does not stay from a reboot.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You need to save the firewall configuration once you changed it 
> > > > > > > > for it
> > > > > > > > to persist across reboots. I haven't used ufw, so you will need to
> > > > > > > > read up on how to do that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If port tcp 22 shows up as not filtered but closed, then the 
> > > > > > > > port is
> > > > > > > > open, but there is no ssh service running.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Greg