Re: hopefully some help with AntiX

[Karen Lewellen <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi chrys,
Where might I find information about the list?
thanks,
Karen



On Sat, 27 Aug 2022, Linux A11y wrote:

> Howdy glenn,
>
> Nah, you can download the source from github just as zip or tar. Specialy the releases i did. See here:
>
> https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir/archive/refs/tags/1.9.7.1.tar.gz
>
> You can just unpack and run it.
>
> You are using the system just with OCR? Respect.
>
> Cheers chrys
>
>
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>
> > Am 27.08.2022 um 18:00 schrieb K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email>:
> >
> > 
> > If Fenrir requires git, that is a problem, because git is not on AntiX, and I tried to apt install it, and it cannot find it.
> > I am wondering if the errors are related to git.
> > I'm using OCR on the screen, so it isn't easy to obtain the messages, and impossible to save them.
> >
> > Glenn
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Linux A11y
> > To: K0LNY_Glenn
> > Cc: speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Didier Spaier
> > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 10:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> >
> > Howdy,
> >
> > > > Well I ran check-dependencies.py and it gave a couple mysterious errors,
> > What errors you get? Fenrir starts for testing also just from git folder without any need to install. But it requires the needed dependencys and the correct pulse setup.
> > See readme section pulseaudio.
> > https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir#configure-pulseaudio
> >
> > Also this is the speakup list and people tend to flame if someone is „advertising“ different software. To prevent this you can register to fenrirs mailing list to get useful help. We will get it run for sure.
> >
> > Cheers chrys
> >
> > > Am 27.08.2022 um 17:37 schrieb K0LNY_Glenn <glenn@ervin.email>:
> > >
> > > Hi Didier,
> > > I did try to join that forum about a week ago, and never got a confirmation
> > > for the forum.
> > > I also contacted someone associated with it and asked why accessibility
> > > wasn't built in.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Didier Spaier" <didier@xxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 12:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Installing a package intended for another distribution can work... But
> > > oftentimes does not.
> > >
> > > If not yet done, I suggest that you post your issue in this forum:
> > > https://www.antixforum.com/
> > > Caveat: I do not know if it is accessible with a screen reader.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Dider
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 27/08/2022 à 15:06, K0LNY_Glenn a écrit :
> > > > Well I found espeak-ng for Debian Buster here:
> > > > https://packages.debian.org/buster/espeak-ng
> > > > The file I downloaded was:
> > > > espeak-ng_1.49.2+dfsg-8+deb10u1.debian.tar.xz
> > > > Looking in the archive, there are some .install files, but I didn't find
> > > > any
> > > > .sh files, so I don't know which file to use to get espeak installed on
> > > > this
> > > > system.
> > > > Or if there is a .deb for RhVoice, that would work too, but did I download
> > > > the wrong espeak-ng file for installing it?
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>
> > > > To: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx>; "Gregory Nowak"
> > > > <greg@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > > > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 9:46 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well I ran check-dependencies.py and it gave a couple mysterious errors,
> > > > but
> > > > it didn't help.
> > > > I ran install.sh again.
> > > > I ran sudo fenrir and again it only gave me the startup tone.
> > > > It acts like there is no TTS for it to use.
> > > > Glenn
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; "Gregory Nowak" <greg@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > > > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 9:55 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Also sysctl enable fenrir.service or is it fenrirscreenreader.service then
> > > > sysctl start fenrir.service or sysctl start fenrirscreenreader.service.
> > > > If a service is missing systemd will let you know about it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
> > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well I ran install.sh on the system, and pressed enter where it said to
> > > > > proceed, and it said was finished, and it said to type
> > > > > sudo fenrir
> > > > > to test it, and all I can get is the two-tone sound when fenrir starts,
> > > > > but
> > > > > no TTS.
> > > > > Should have that installed espeak or espeak-ng?
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; "Gregory Nowak" <greg@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > > > > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 8:27 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For now and not forever, why not do apt purge ufw?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
> > > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > >
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Then all 1000 ports show up in nmap as closed.
> > > > > > So it seems if I allow a port in ufw, it shows up as closed, but not
> > > > > > filtered.
> > > > > > So filtered means ufw is running, and if 22 gets allowed, it is not
> > > > > > filtered, but still closed.
> > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; "Gregory Nowak" <greg@xxxxxxxxx>;
> > > > > > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 7:12 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What happens if ufw --disable is run then the offending computer gets
> > > > > > rebooted?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
> > > > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > > > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've considered that, and if I can get any port to open, I will gladly
> > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > telnet.
> > > > > > > Hell, if I could open all 1000 ports now, I would!
> > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 7:01 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: hopefully some help with AntiX
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 02:06:13PM -0500, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > > > > > On the antiX I did
> > > > > > > > sudo netcat -l 22
> > > > > > > > and then on the pine 64, I did sudo nc 10.248.1.143 22
> > > > > > > > and it does not seem to connect.
> > > > > > > > I wonder if it is because I am using 22 to get from my windows to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Pine64, in order to go linux to linux.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Port 22 is a privileged port. You should consider using 1024 or
> > > > > > > higher. If the listening port is open on the firewall, the commands
> > > > > > > you gave above should connect. If you type something on the client
> > > > > > > side, you should see it typed on the antiX machine, and the other way
> > > > > > > round. This will however not give you a login terminal. To do that,
> > > > > > > you need something that handles logins to listen on your netcat. This
> > > > > > > isn't something I've done, so can't give you more directions here. If
> > > > > > > you don't care about the connection being secure, which you don't seem
> > > > > > > to, you might as well try:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > apt install telnetd
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and open tcp 23 on your firewall.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 04:12:28PM -0500, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > > > > > Well I thought I'd try iptables again.
> > > > > > > > I finally got it to run without any errors, that long iptables
> > > > > > > > command
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > got
> > > > > > > > earlier.
> > > > > > > > But nmap still sees no ports open on that host.
> > > > > > > > Prior to running iptables, I tried to apt install it, and the
> > > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > that I'm already running the latest.
> > > > > > > > So I needed to restart iptables with
> > > > > > > > sudo service iptables restart
> > > > > > > > and it can find no service iptables.
> > > > > > > > I retyped it several times to be sure there was no typos.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is to be expected, iptables is not a system service.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I tried
> > > > > > > > sudo systemctl restart iptables
> > > > > > > > and the system cannot find systemctl
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is antiX running sysvinit, openrc, or something else? This is
> > > > > > > something the antiX documentation should tell you. What does it use
> > > > > > > for PID1 or init?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > question:
> > > > > > > > If I reboot, if the long iptables command worked, will it stick if I
> > > > > > > > reboot?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 05:57:37PM -0500, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:
> > > > > > > > Well it seems ufw is there, but it must not be running
> > > > > > > > automatically,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > does not fix the port problem.
> > > > > > > > I did
> > > > > > > > sudo ufw allow ssh
> > > > > > > > it said tcp port allowed
> > > > > > > > or something like that
> > > > > > > > so I checked on the other computer with nmap
> > > > > > > > 100 ports closed
> > > > > > > > So I did sudo ufw restart
> > > > > > > > and the other computer said 999 ports filtered tcp port 22 closed.
> > > > > > > > I've done iptables too, but that does not stay after a reboot.
> > > > > > > > if I do sudo ufw status
> > > > > > > > it shows tcp port 22 allow
> > > > > > > > but it does not stay from a reboot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You need to save the firewall configuration once you changed it for it
> > > > > > > to persist across reboots. I haven't used ufw, so you will need to
> > > > > > > read up on how to do that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If port tcp 22 shows up as not filtered but closed, then the port is
> > > > > > > open, but there is no ssh service running.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greg