I agree, was surprised that someone recommended an entirely different
program as a substitute for speakup on a speakup list.
On Fri, 13 May 2022, John G. Heim wrote:
This thread, in fact this list, is supposed to be about speakup. The speakup
modules were left out of the Ubuntu kernel for 22.04. There is nothing to
keep you from installing fenrir after you've installed Ubuntu. But that has
nothing to do with speakup.
On 5/12/22 20:17, Karen Lewellen wrote:
And if one prefers the command line?
Should not all aspects of Linux be equally accessible so end users have
choices?
command line and graphical?
Kare
On Fri, 13 May 2022, Linux A11y wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Not sure if this helps, but you can also use fenrir, what does not
> require any kind of kernel involved. In fact there is no need for
> installing at all (as it could used from git tree).
>
> https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir
>
> Cheers chrys
> > Am 12.05.2022 um 23:11 schrieb jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx:
> >
> >
> > On the ubuntu-accessibility list I asked if a sound message at
> > substantial volume could be played to let installers know speakup
> > can't yet work with an existing kernel bug. Now that brings me to a
> > couple other questions that may be useful. For the current case if
> > fenrir were installed, could it run as a stop gap until speakup can be
> > made to run? Also, if fenrir can run, could a script run after a
> > sound message got played to install and activate fenrir for the
> > console? Once speakup became available the workaround code to handle
> > this bug could be removed. It would be helpful to installers if a
> > notification about speakup and the kernel having been fixed would come
> > up on their machines. I realize this is a big ask, and in my case I
> > have no linux support local to me blind or sighted that could sort
> > things out with the possible exception of be my eyes and their support
> > while useful can at best be partial.
> >
> > On May 12, 2022 2:37:44 PM Monica Ayhens-Madon
> > <monica.ayhens.madon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > One of the things the Accessibility Guild is working on is to make
> > > our processes around accessibility stronger. When we had a devoted
> > > person for this, we just took the process for granted, and when they
> > > left, the process did too. And obviously, this has to be frustrating
> > > and disheartening for Speakup users. So, long answer short - I hope
> > > this is the last time we have to go through this, and I'll do what I
> > > can to help make that happen.
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 5:18 PM John G. Heim <jheim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Well, that's great but are we going to have to go through this
> > > > again for Kinetic Kudu, 22.10? The same thing happened now for
> > > > Hirsute, Impish, and Jammy.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/11/22 11:50, Monica Ayhens-Madon wrote:
> > > > > Adrian,
> > > > >
> > > > > According to my colleague, if the output of uname -r ends with
> > > > > 'generic' on the ubuntu server 22.04 LTS you're running, it will
> > > > > be fixed soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Sorry I can't test it myself - I am stuck abroad with a really
> > > > > minimal setup and this is my first day back at work after being
> > > > > ill. It's almost 7 PM here so I'll be winding down soon.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for offering to share your insight and feedback - it's
> > > > > very appreciated!
> > > > >
> > > > > Monica
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 6:05 PM Adrian Orjales
> > > > > <adriorjalesvidal31@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > Sure, I'd be happy to help. Feel free to share my email
> > > > > > address with your colleagues.
> > > > > > The version was ubuntu server 22.04 lts. I will install it
> > > > > > again and test it more, and also the desktop version to try to
> > > > > > give my best feedback possible.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > El El mié, 11 may 2022 a las 17:15, Monica Ayhens-Madon
> > > > > > <monica.ayhens.madon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> > > > > > > Adrian, could you let me know more about which specific
> > > > > > > version of server? I'm talking to one of my colleagues on
> > > > > > > the kernel team and he needs more information.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And I'm only one of a group of people at Canonical working
> > > > > > > on accessibility. My main job is to be a bridge between them
> > > > > > > and the community. Can I give the Accessibility Guild your
> > > > > > > address (and anyone else's e-mail address, if you'd like to
> > > > > > > talk to us about how we can improve accessibility), we would
> > > > > > > like to know your feedback and suggestions!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:59 PM Adrian Orjales
> > > > > > > <adriorjalesvidal31@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello Monica
> > > > > > > > Does this affect also ubuntu server? I've installed Ubuntu
> > > > > > > > server and no speakup module was found when i tried to
> > > > > > > > load it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm very happy to know about you, because i think there
> > > > > > > > are a lot of things in ubuntu to talk about accessibility.
> > > > > > > > If you are open to listen, i will be happy to help with
> > > > > > > > feedback.
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > El El mié, 11 may 2022 a las 15:38, Monica Ayhens-Madon
> > > > > > > > <monica.ayhens.madon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> > > > > > > > > Hello!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm Monica Ayhens-Madon from the Community Team at
> > > > > > > > > Canonical, and I'm part of our Accessibility Guild. I've
> > > > > > > > > had a chat with people on our kernel team and there is
> > > > > > > > > an existing bug being fixed, and Speakup should be
> > > > > > > > > available in updates soon. Please feel free to reach out
> > > > > > > > > to me with any questions or any other accessibility
> > > > > > > > > issues I can raise internally.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Monica
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 3:19 AM John G. Heim
> > > > > > > > > <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Arrgh! Speakup seems not to have been compiled into
> > > > > > > > > > the Ubuntu
> > > > > > > > > > Jammy/22.04 kernel. Same thing as in 21.04 and 21.10.
> > > > > > > > > > Man! Well, I guess
> > > > > > > > > > I'll have to file a bug report ... again.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > ###
> > > > > > > > > > John G. Heim, 608-263-4189, jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> >
> >
>
