W dniu 20.02.2021 o 18:33, Didier Spaier pisze: > A meant "not redirect the streams coming from ALSA to PA", sorry. > > Le 20/02/2021 à 18:10, Didier Spaier via orca-list a écrit : >> Hi Matthew, >> >> That was my assumption. In Slint it works out of the box, so it would >> certainly >> be possible in Debian if only someone could convince the maintainers >> of ALSA >> and PulseAudio for Debian to use dmix as mixer for PA by default and not I am pretty sure being able to use dmix actually breaks things. Like all the latency requirements you may have are now borked. Do you really want a mainstream solution that breaks any and all use cases where that is important? In addition I have at least one report of that setup not working at all for someone like sound being hoppy. Note I mentioned pipewire that is used both as pa and as jack, and if someone tries to use jack he may have low latency requirements. >> redirect the streams coming from PA to ALSA. But hey, I have written >> that years >> ago and am not in concern, sorry for beating this dead horse again. >> >> Le 20/02/2021 à 17:48, ilovecountrymusic483@xxxxxxxxx a écrit : >>> Didider, >>> >>> What I think he is referring to is being able to use orca and speakup >>> at the same time. Ie using orca with a gui system such as gnome or >>> mate and get speech ina concile with speak-up or fenner. At the >>> moment, you have to do some editing of some configuration files >>> inorder to get both working orca and speech working together. At >>> least in Debian, this works in other distros like arch this is not so >>> easy. HTH. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: orca-list <orca-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Didier >>> Spaier via orca-list >>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 9:17 AM >>> To: orca-list@xxxxxxxxx; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>> <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Solving screenreader sound problems in >>> presence of sound servers once and for all >>> >>> I suggest that you bring this issue to a support channel for your >>> distribution >>> as this works out of the box in others. >>> >>> There is nothing to be pushed upstream (to ALSA or PulseAudio >>> developers) as >>> this depends on the configuration provided by the distribution in use or >>> customized by the user. >>> >>> Didier >>> >>> Le 20/02/2021 à 14:23, Michał Zegan via orca-list a écrit : >>>> How does it work then, if pulseaudio releases device, and some gui >>>> program plays something, it plays on pulseaudio, so you shouldn't be >>>> hearing it on console because pa just released the device. >>>> Also in any case it's still the thing. Things like that should work out >>>> of the box and shouldn't require workarounds. So if there is a proper >>>> way to fix it that would make it hassle free it should be considered to >>>> be pushed upstream, if it cannot be pushed upstream, then the issues >>>> that prevent it should be mitigated. >>>> >>>> >>>> W dniu 20.02.2021 o 14:18, Jookia pisze: >>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 02:12:54PM +0100, Michał Zegan wrote: >>>>>> This is the thing, you need hacks to work around stuff, and then >>>>>> you get >>>>>> drawbacks. >>>>>> For example does your setup allow me to play sound on gui and hear >>>>>> it on >>>>>> console when I log in to the same user, or, play sound on console >>>>>> when >>>>>> screenreader is speaking? >>>>>> Like the last one is likely possible if espeakup uses dmix. >>>>> >>>>> Yes to both. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> orca-list mailing list >>>> orca-list@xxxxxxxxx >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list >>>> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca >>>> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ >>>> GNOME Universal Access guide: >>>> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> orca-list mailing list >>> orca-list@xxxxxxxxx >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list >>> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca >>> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ >>> GNOME Universal Access guide: >>> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> orca-list mailing list >> orca-list@xxxxxxxxx >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list >> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca >> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ >> GNOME Universal Access guide: >> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html > _______________________________________________ > orca-list mailing list > orca-list@xxxxxxxxx > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ > GNOME Universal Access guide: > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html >
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