Re: [orca-list] Solving screenreader sound problems in presence of sound servers once and for all

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A meant "not redirect the streams coming from ALSA to PA", sorry.

Le 20/02/2021 à 18:10, Didier Spaier via orca-list a écrit :
Hi Matthew,

That was my assumption. In Slint it works out of the box, so it would certainly be possible in Debian if only someone could convince the maintainers of ALSA
and PulseAudio for Debian to use dmix as mixer for PA by default and not
redirect the streams coming from PA to ALSA. But hey, I have written that years
ago and am not in concern, sorry for beating this dead horse again.

Le 20/02/2021 à 17:48, ilovecountrymusic483@xxxxxxxxx a écrit :
Didider,

What I think he is referring to is being able to use orca and speakup at the same time.  Ie using orca with a gui system such as gnome or mate and get speech ina concile with speak-up or fenner.  At the moment, you have to do some editing of some configuration files inorder to get both working orca and speech working together.  At least in Debian, this works in other distros like arch this is not so easy.  HTH.

Matthew



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I suggest that you bring this issue to a support channel for your
distribution
as this works out of the box in others.

There is nothing to be pushed upstream (to ALSA or PulseAudio developers) as
this depends on the configuration provided by the distribution in use or
customized by the user.

Didier

Le 20/02/2021 à 14:23, Michał Zegan via orca-list a écrit :
How does it work then, if pulseaudio releases device, and some gui
program plays something, it plays on pulseaudio, so you shouldn't be
hearing it on console because pa just released the device.
Also in any case it's still the thing. Things like that should work out
of the box and shouldn't require workarounds. So if there is a proper
way to fix it that would make it hassle free it should be considered to
be pushed upstream, if it cannot be pushed upstream, then the issues
that prevent it should be mitigated.


W dniu 20.02.2021 o 14:18, Jookia pisze:
On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 02:12:54PM +0100, Michał Zegan wrote:
This is the thing, you need hacks to work around stuff, and then you get
drawbacks.
For example does your setup allow me to play sound on gui and hear it on
console when I log in to the same user, or, play sound on console when
screenreader is speaking?
Like the last one is likely possible if espeakup uses dmix.

Yes to both.



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