QT5 has apparently gotten better, but I haven't tried a QT desktop yet. On 06/19/2017 02:49 PM, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > Thanks, Austin, > > I have used orca a bit, but only in gnome (gtk-based). > > I'm not sure though; does orca work in a qt-based desktop? > > --terry > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 02:38:34PM -0400, Austin Seraphin wrote: > --> Linux uses the Orca screen reader for graphical interfaces, and they > --> have their own mailing list as well. I use it with the Mate desktop and > --> love it. Speakup works as a fallback if the GUI crashes. > --> > --> > --> On 06/19/2017 01:01 PM, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > --> > Hi greg, > --> > > --> > thanks for your response. > --> > > --> > I have debian 8, a fresh install on this laptop, with gnome. I don't think that should make much difference though. > --> > > --> > Questions: > --> > > --> > 1) why did you choose the xfce desktop? > --> > 2) I have little experience with gui's in debian, everything has been speakup/cli. What screen review package do you use in a qt-based desktop? > --> > 3) why the virtualbox vm, over vmware/kvm/etc? > --> > 4) have you run a windows guest on the debian host? any caveats there? > --> > > --> > Thanks for any pointers/suggestions you can offer. > --> > > --> > --terry > --> > > --> > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 01:56:10PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > --> > --> I'm running the same debian 7 guest on both a windows host and a > --> > --> devuan 1 host, not at the same time of course. The devuan host is running xfce, and I find myself > --> > --> managing the guest from the GUI mostly. The GUI is qt-based, so the > --> > --> accessibility is not what it would probably be if it was gtk-based, > --> > --> but it is still useable. Also, everything that can be done from the > --> > --> GUI on virtualbox can also be done through the command line. > --> > --> > --> > --> As for the guest itself, it's very much as if it were the host. Some > --> > --> usb devices passed through to the guest don't handle as fast as they > --> > --> would on bare metal, but that's about it. If you have more specific > --> > --> questions, I'll try to answer them. > --> > --> > --> > --> Greg > --> > --> > --> > --> > --> > --> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 07:38:41PM -0400, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > --> > --> > Hi all, > --> > --> > > --> > --> > Been lurking on this list for a long time, so here comes a question: > --> > --> > > --> > --> > Kirk tells me that some of you are using virtual machines with speakup. > --> > --> > > --> > --> > Which vm works best? kvm/qemu? vmware? virtualbox? other? > --> > --> > > --> > --> > Target system is debian, on a asus laptop i7 64-bit, 8GB ram 1TB hdd. > --> > --> > > --> > --> > I have need to run windows 10, currently dual-booting with uefi/gpt, but want t+o run in a vm on this system. > --> > --> > > --> > --> > Also, curious about possibility of running android development in the same vm environment. > --> > --> > > --> > --> > Any suggestions/observations/experiences are very welcome. > --> > --> > > --> > --> > TIA, > --> > --> > > --> > --> > --terry > --> > --> > > --> > --> > -- > --> > --> > Name: Terry D. Cudney > --> > --> > Phone: 289-488-4882 ext 1 > --> > --> > E-mail: terry@xxxxxxxxxx > --> > --> > _______________________________________________ > --> > --> > Speakup mailing list > --> > --> > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > --> > --> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > --> > --> > --> > --> -- > --> > --> web site: http://www.gregn.net > --> > --> gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc > --> > --> skype: gregn1 > --> > --> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > --> > --> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. > --> > --> > --> > --> -- > --> > --> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@xxxxxx > --> > --> _______________________________________________ > --> > --> Speakup mailing list > --> > --> Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > --> > --> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > --> > > --> > --> _______________________________________________ > --> Speakup mailing list > --> Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > --> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup