Thanks, Austin, I have used orca a bit, but only in gnome (gtk-based). I'm not sure though; does orca work in a qt-based desktop? --terry On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 02:38:34PM -0400, Austin Seraphin wrote: --> Linux uses the Orca screen reader for graphical interfaces, and they --> have their own mailing list as well. I use it with the Mate desktop and --> love it. Speakup works as a fallback if the GUI crashes. --> --> --> On 06/19/2017 01:01 PM, Terry D. Cudney wrote: --> > Hi greg, --> > --> > thanks for your response. --> > --> > I have debian 8, a fresh install on this laptop, with gnome. I don't think that should make much difference though. --> > --> > Questions: --> > --> > 1) why did you choose the xfce desktop? --> > 2) I have little experience with gui's in debian, everything has been speakup/cli. What screen review package do you use in a qt-based desktop? --> > 3) why the virtualbox vm, over vmware/kvm/etc? --> > 4) have you run a windows guest on the debian host? any caveats there? --> > --> > Thanks for any pointers/suggestions you can offer. --> > --> > --terry --> > --> > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 01:56:10PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: --> > --> I'm running the same debian 7 guest on both a windows host and a --> > --> devuan 1 host, not at the same time of course. The devuan host is running xfce, and I find myself --> > --> managing the guest from the GUI mostly. The GUI is qt-based, so the --> > --> accessibility is not what it would probably be if it was gtk-based, --> > --> but it is still useable. Also, everything that can be done from the --> > --> GUI on virtualbox can also be done through the command line. --> > --> --> > --> As for the guest itself, it's very much as if it were the host. Some --> > --> usb devices passed through to the guest don't handle as fast as they --> > --> would on bare metal, but that's about it. If you have more specific --> > --> questions, I'll try to answer them. --> > --> --> > --> Greg --> > --> --> > --> --> > --> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 07:38:41PM -0400, Terry D. Cudney wrote: --> > --> > Hi all, --> > --> > --> > --> > Been lurking on this list for a long time, so here comes a question: --> > --> > --> > --> > Kirk tells me that some of you are using virtual machines with speakup. --> > --> > --> > --> > Which vm works best? kvm/qemu? vmware? virtualbox? other? --> > --> > --> > --> > Target system is debian, on a asus laptop i7 64-bit, 8GB ram 1TB hdd. --> > --> > --> > --> > I have need to run windows 10, currently dual-booting with uefi/gpt, but want t+o run in a vm on this system. --> > --> > --> > --> > Also, curious about possibility of running android development in the same vm environment. --> > --> > --> > --> > Any suggestions/observations/experiences are very welcome. --> > --> > --> > --> > TIA, --> > --> > --> > --> > --terry --> > --> > --> > --> > -- --> > --> > Name: Terry D. Cudney --> > --> > Phone: 289-488-4882 ext 1 --> > --> > E-mail: terry@xxxxxxxxxx --> > --> > _______________________________________________ --> > --> > Speakup mailing list --> > --> > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --> > --> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup --> > --> --> > --> -- --> > --> web site: http://www.gregn.net --> > --> gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc --> > --> skype: gregn1 --> > --> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) --> > --> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. --> > --> --> > --> -- --> > --> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@xxxxxx --> > --> _______________________________________________ --> > --> Speakup mailing list --> > --> Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --> > --> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup --> > --> --> _______________________________________________ --> Speakup mailing list --> Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: 289-488-4882 ext 1 E-mail: speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup