In my experience, speakup works just fine on a system without pulseaudio installed. I don't see what the complaint is about below. Greg On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 09:14:40PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > -- > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:55:58 > From: kendell clark <coffeekingms@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@xxxxxx>, > Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx>, support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [Support] status of our new images and a request > > hi > We've been wanting to make one for a while. We keep running into > either 1, issues with speakup when pulse audio is running, been > present for years and no one will own up to it or 2, brltty, which > can work as a console screen reader. Right now it doesn't support > the espeak fork, called espeak-ng, which sonar has switched to > using. It's rather embarrassing, and my own personal opinion is that > all the blind users who care about command line access, storm comes > to mind, should band together and bug the shit out of the speakup > people until they fix their bug. It's actually a combination of > speakup, and the fact that speakup runs in the kernel, which means > it runs as root, which means it's not subject to user permissions. > Why that means it doesn't produce sound I'm not sure, but it > doesn't. If pulse audio isn't running this just works, but otherwise > ... shrug. > Thanks > Kendell clark > > > Simon Eigeldinger via Support wrote: > >Hi, > > > >ah sorry forgot about the command line users. > >maybe interesting when there will be maybe some console based sonar isos. > > > >greetings, > >simon > > > >Am 14.02.2016 um 17:40 schrieb Jude DaShiell: > >>youtube-viewer I use on talkingarch and would install and use that if > >>accessible in graphical environment if accessible. When I want to > >>search for channels in youtube-viewer I know how to do that. > >> > >>On Sun, 14 Feb 2016, Simon Eigeldinger via Support wrote: > >> > >>>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 05:23:12 > >>>From: Simon Eigeldinger via Support <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>Reply-To: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@xxxxxx> > >>>To: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>Subject: Re: [Support] status of our new images and a request > >>> > >>>Hi, > >>> > >>>Here's my take at the package liss: > >>> > >>>packages-desktop: > >>> > >>>maybe getting ried of: > >>>elinks: Is someone using that? seems not to work on my system. > >>>youtube-viewer: never used it used firefox. > >>>rythmbox: replacing it with audacious? gtk ipod tool is installed as > >>>well. no good solution? > >>> > >>>Maybe packages to be added: > >>>veracrypt from aur: disk and container encryption tool. pretty > >>>accessible. > >>>audacious: maybe better than rythmbox > >>>corebird: twitter client. pretty accessible. > >>> > >>>packages-gnome: no ideas what to remove or add. > >>> > >>>packages-mate: no ideas what to remove or add. > >>> > >>>greetings, > >>>simon > >>> > >>> > >>>Am 14.02.2016 um 02:58 schrieb kendell clark via Support: > >>>>hi > >>>>Here goes. Packages-desktop, which is common packages that both gnome > >>>>and mate use, is pasted hear. > >>>>http://paste.pound-python.org/show/4Ykrak83Bhg4BjZF2EmH/. Packages-gnome > >>>>can be seen hear. > >>>>http://paste.pound-python.org/show/o03gJEMO8B4IyN81dOcw/. Packages-mate > >>>>can be seen hear, > >>>>http://paste.pound-python.org/show/RDbaW2X3Legc3zLOt63Y/. > >>>>Thanks > >>>>Kendell clark > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Hadi via Support wrote: > >>>>>Kendell, Is it possible that you pastebin the mentioned files so we > >>>>>could take a look at it? There are some great pastebin sites like > >>>>>slexy.org. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>On 2/13/2016 2:56 PM, kendell clark via Support wrote: > >>>>>>hi all > >>>>>>Well, it's been long enough. I've been working with phil and teo to > >>>>>>improve the accessibility of calamares, but it's just not there yet > >>>>>>so I'm going to release new gnome and mate images with our old > >>>>>>installer, thus, instead. I've waited more than long enough and I'll > >>>>>>write back in as soon as the 32 bit and 64 bit images are uploaded. > >>>>>>Before I upload the images though, I want to do some serious cleanup > >>>>>>on our software selection. I've tried installing just about every > >>>>>>piece of software under the sun that a blind person might possibly > >>>>>>want on the live image, mainly to show a newcomer exactly what linux > >>>>>>can do. But I think it's more than past time to thin the selection, > >>>>>>at least on the live images, considerably. Would all of you who can, > >>>>>>clone our software repository and look at the Packages-Desktop file, > >>>>>>as well as the main packages-gnome and packages-mate files and tell > >>>>>>me what software can be cut? The image sizes are getting out of > >>>>>>control, they've just surpassed the 2.0 gb mark, and I'd like to trim > >>>>>>that down. To get our git repository, open a terminal and issue the > >>>>>>following commands. Git clone > >>>>>>https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-tools-iso-profiles.git. Wait for > >>>>>>it to clone, it shouldn't take too long, then change into the folder, > >>>>>>then into the sonar folder. The packages-desktop file is shared > >>>>>>between the gnome and mate profiles, so it's in the shared folder. > >>>>>>The others are in the gnome and mate folders, respectively. Again, > >>>>>>I'll write back in when the images are uploaded but I'll wait on > >>>>>>community feedback so I know what to remove, and once I have that, > >>>>>>I'll then build the images and upload them to sourceforge. I'm really > >>>>>>sorry for the long delay, but I was trying to get calamares into a > >>>>>>usable state, but it's just not there yet. Thank you all of you who > >>>>>>have been patient and waiting for new images, it's definitely been a > >>>>>>little more trouble than last time, that's for sure, grins. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks > >>>>>>Kendell clark > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>>Support mailing list > >>>>>>Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>http://sonargnulinux.com/mailman/listinfo/support_sonargnulinux.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>Support mailing list > >>>>>Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>http://sonargnulinux.com/mailman/listinfo/support_sonargnulinux.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>Support mailing list > >>>>Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>http://sonargnulinux.com/mailman/listinfo/support_sonargnulinux.com > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@xxxxxx _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
