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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:55:58
From: kendell clark <coffeekingms@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@xxxxxx>,
Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx>, support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Support] status of our new images and a request
hi
We've been wanting to make one for a while. We keep running into either 1,
issues with speakup when pulse audio is running, been present for years and no
one will own up to it or 2, brltty, which can work as a console screen reader.
Right now it doesn't support the espeak fork, called espeak-ng, which sonar has
switched to using. It's rather embarrassing, and my own personal opinion is
that all the blind users who care about command line access, storm comes to
mind, should band together and bug the shit out of the speakup people until
they fix their bug. It's actually a combination of speakup, and the fact that
speakup runs in the kernel, which means it runs as root, which means it's not
subject to user permissions. Why that means it doesn't produce sound I'm not
sure, but it doesn't. If pulse audio isn't running this just works, but
otherwise ... shrug.
Thanks
Kendell clark
Simon Eigeldinger via Support wrote:
Hi,
ah sorry forgot about the command line users.
maybe interesting when there will be maybe some console based sonar isos.
greetings,
simon
Am 14.02.2016 um 17:40 schrieb Jude DaShiell:
youtube-viewer I use on talkingarch and would install and use that if
accessible in graphical environment if accessible. When I want to
search for channels in youtube-viewer I know how to do that.
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016, Simon Eigeldinger via Support wrote:
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 05:23:12
From: Simon Eigeldinger via Support <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@xxxxxx>
To: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Support] status of our new images and a request
Hi,
Here's my take at the package liss:
packages-desktop:
maybe getting ried of:
elinks: Is someone using that? seems not to work on my system.
youtube-viewer: never used it used firefox.
rythmbox: replacing it with audacious? gtk ipod tool is installed as
well. no good solution?
Maybe packages to be added:
veracrypt from aur: disk and container encryption tool. pretty
accessible.
audacious: maybe better than rythmbox
corebird: twitter client. pretty accessible.
packages-gnome: no ideas what to remove or add.
packages-mate: no ideas what to remove or add.
greetings,
simon
Am 14.02.2016 um 02:58 schrieb kendell clark via Support:
hi
Here goes. Packages-desktop, which is common packages that both gnome
and mate use, is pasted hear.
http://paste.pound-python.org/show/4Ykrak83Bhg4BjZF2EmH/. Packages-gnome
can be seen hear.
http://paste.pound-python.org/show/o03gJEMO8B4IyN81dOcw/. Packages-mate
can be seen hear,
http://paste.pound-python.org/show/RDbaW2X3Legc3zLOt63Y/.
Thanks
Kendell clark
Hadi via Support wrote:
Kendell, Is it possible that you pastebin the mentioned files so we
could take a look at it? There are some great pastebin sites like
slexy.org.
On 2/13/2016 2:56 PM, kendell clark via Support wrote:
hi all
Well, it's been long enough. I've been working with phil and teo to
improve the accessibility of calamares, but it's just not there yet
so I'm going to release new gnome and mate images with our old
installer, thus, instead. I've waited more than long enough and I'll
write back in as soon as the 32 bit and 64 bit images are uploaded.
Before I upload the images though, I want to do some serious cleanup
on our software selection. I've tried installing just about every
piece of software under the sun that a blind person might possibly
want on the live image, mainly to show a newcomer exactly what linux
can do. But I think it's more than past time to thin the selection,
at least on the live images, considerably. Would all of you who can,
clone our software repository and look at the Packages-Desktop file,
as well as the main packages-gnome and packages-mate files and tell
me what software can be cut? The image sizes are getting out of
control, they've just surpassed the 2.0 gb mark, and I'd like to trim
that down. To get our git repository, open a terminal and issue the
following commands. Git clone
https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-tools-iso-profiles.git. Wait for
it to clone, it shouldn't take too long, then change into the folder,
then into the sonar folder. The packages-desktop file is shared
between the gnome and mate profiles, so it's in the shared folder.
The others are in the gnome and mate folders, respectively. Again,
I'll write back in when the images are uploaded but I'll wait on
community feedback so I know what to remove, and once I have that,
I'll then build the images and upload them to sourceforge. I'm really
sorry for the long delay, but I was trying to get calamares into a
usable state, but it's just not there yet. Thank you all of you who
have been patient and waiting for new images, it's definitely been a
little more trouble than last time, that's for sure, grins.
Thanks
Kendell clark
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