Currently Arch has only one image, which is a dual-architecture CD, and it is trending larger. I believe last month's snapshot was the only one that I haven't seen grow by at least 10MB over the past year. Yes, I can remember when the dual-architecture CD was under 500MB, but that was probably almost 3 years ago, and we can never go back to that size and still maintain a dual-architecture image. My guess is that Arch will do one of two things once its image exceeds 700MB. Either it will switch to recommending burning to a DVD or writing to USB media, or it will switch back to two images, one for i686 and one for x86_64. The second option is far less likely, as it makes little sense from the point of view of the Arch developers. This does however explain why the iso is as large as it is, since you are not downloading an image for a single architecture. Instead, with Arch, you download both i686 and x86_64 in a single iso file, and the correct kernel and applications are loaded at boot time. It greatly simplifies things, but does make th e image nearly twice as large as a single architecture would be. The only other way I can see to boot Arch is to boot it over the network. While this seems good in theory, everything happens prior to loading a Linux kernel, and therefore, it most likely can't be made to speak. The only offline image is the single iso on the download page, and TalkingArch by definition must do what Arch itself is doing, only adding packages and configurations to make it support speech and braille. Sent from my test tube _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup