Kirk, thanks for the detailed reply. I'll look into both browsers a bit will have to familiarize self with git as havn't needed it yet with debian. Wish my python was up to helping but not yet, I followed along with my wife through a coursera intro to python for 'informatics" class and did O.K. till they got to dictionaries and "tupples" whereupon the old greyware started to melt! <GRIN> My programming head kind of stopped at the assembly language embedded systems stuff back in the 8051 days. May subscribe to the wb list and see if I understand any of it. At least I strongly believe in what you are doing and will help if anything I can do. Thanks again Tom Fowle wa6ivgtf@xxxxxxxxxxx On Mon, Apr 20, 2015, at 06:26 PM, Kirk Reiser wrote: > Hello Tom: Both wb and clifox are text based browsers that try to > support javascript and ajax. Clifox is based around xvfb and > firefox/iceweasel etc. Wb is strictly text based. They both are > written in python. Wb uses pyv8 to interface to v8 which is googles > javascript interpreter. They are both very rough in that there are > many browser features that are not implemented yet such as bookmarks > and file downloading. I would say that clifox is more advanced because > it uses mostly features built into firefox so plays youtube videos etc > quite decently. > > As far as I know there are only a few people that use either of these > browsers. I use them everyday but my web page needs are quite simple > and I use elinks for most my browsing where I need to be able to > download files and mark pages. I keep telling myself I need to work on > them more diligently but the fact is that without more people helping > and interested in them I find other things to occupy my time. > > You can find wb at: git clone http://linux-speakup.org/wb.git > u can find clifox at: git clone http://bmcginty.us/clifox.git > > The documentation is also pretty rough. There are installation scripts > for both but I'm not sure you really need the one for clifox if you do > a git checkout new after cloning. You just need to install your > distributions xvfb and firefox equivolent packages. In debian that is > iceweasel. I'm not sure what it is in other distros. Once those are > installed I think you may be able to just run the 'run' script. Wb is > much more involved to get set-up and running because it depends on a > bunch of other python packages. > > There is a mailing list which is extremely low traffic that can be > joined by sending mail to wb-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. We use the > same list for both programs. > > If you have any other questions just let me know. I apologize for the > delay in responding but I needed to wait until I could take the time > to answer in some detail. > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015, Tom Fowle wrote: > > > Hi Kirk ET all, > > could someone provide a brief explanation for a not-really programmer > > about > > WB and CLIFOX > > and/or where to find such info? > > > > I too would be thrilled with a command line browser with java > > I just ain't got it to learn orca and gnome GUI's are forced upon us, > > not > > desired! > > > > Tom Fowle > > wa6ivgtf@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Kirk Reiser wrote: > >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015, Hart Larry wrote: > >> > >> > to get used to Orca. But also, there is a "wb" project, which I would love to > >> > install, however, another LUG member was not happy that you need to install > >> > as > >> > root. Also he says it doesn't use auto tools, so exactly what are easy steps > >> > of > >> > installing "wb"? Thanks in advance > >> > Hart > >> > >> Although you do need to install some of the base packages such as with > >> xvfb and iceweasel for clifox or dependancy packages for python with > >> pip or easyinstall, you don't need to be root to run either wb or > >> clifox. In that fashion they are exactly the same as all other > >> packages. For one that is savvy wb can be totally installed and run as > >> a regular user but you need to install all the packages and compile as > >> a normal user. > >> > >> At this stage they are not really at the point where one can just > >> install with aptitude or apt-get and go. In fact, unless more > >> developers get interested and involved they'll never be at that level. > >> > >> Kirk > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Well that's it then, colour me gone! > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Well that's it then, colour me gone! > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
