I wouldn't go quite that far. I will agree though that the accessibility
tools in linux have gotten worse in the last 5 years, not better. This
is a disturbing trend. I think things began to fall apart when Oracle
bought Sun and got rid of the orca development team.
What we should really do is to put together a group to collect grants to
pay for orca development. We could include speakup development but I
think a single dedicated developer could probably rewrite speakup from
scratch in about 6 months. It's a small project compared to the
continuing development that orca represents.
I'll talk to IAVIT's lawyer about it.
On 02/07/2015 08:43 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
You know, I use Ubuntu, and I have become disenchanted with Linux. With
every new release, we have to rebuild accessibility.
Sure it is free, and it is safer and more powerful than Windows, but Windows
is still more accessible than Linux.
I had big hopes for Linux, and I have reached a point now where it is just a
tool in the toolbox, mainly for drive manipulation.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: finished with slackware
I hate hearing stuff like this; we have made so much progress over the
years in making Linux accessible and then these things start coming
up. When you can't even boot a basic system with current versions of
installer and kernel, then there is something seriously wrong!
I grew up on Slackware clear back in 1994 or so. I then had to login
from a different computer running a terminal emulator but that was a
start.
As for me, I like Arch Linux and there is a current talking image
available. I thought Fedora was currently accessible; no?
On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 08:37:32PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I was trying to install a current version of slackware using the litetalk
synthesizer earlier. Given slackware's installer kernel is broken, I got
some remote sighted assistance and was told wait 30 seconds then key in
boot parameters and that fails persistently insofaras getting speech up.
So apparently slackware and Fedora have something in common. In both
cases an installer interested in doing an accessible installation needs to
find and download an earlier version of the operating systems that did
install accessibly and use that version to install then upgrade through
the versions to get to current versions. Moonshine on Fedora worked on
intel machines in the past and if my memory is correct, maybe slackware
11.2 ought to be able to get it done in this case. What I will do now is
take a stab at getting slackware 11.2 to speak and if that fails as time
and my download quotas permit will try other versions in the future. This
is now a low priority back burner project. I was surprised the
distribution got broken in this way.
jude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Twitter: @JudeDaShiell
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