Samuel Thibault writes: > Maybe try to use > > :set noruler Thanks very much. I just learned something which is usually the case in a unix knowledge search. All this time, I thought I was using vim, called as vi. Some unix systems do just that with a link in /usr/bin/vi that points to vim somewhere else. On this Debian wheezy system, /usr/bin/vi is a link but it looks like lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Nov 1 2012 /usr/bin/vi -> /etc/alternatives/vi which means I actually am using a version of vi, not vim. Vim is on the system as vim.tiny so I tried it and got the same behavior as with vi. It only happens while editing a file in vi or vim I've been interested in this little mystery for some time as some systems have the problem and others don't. I can insert text in to a file on a Debian squeeze system and never hear anything strange save for the occasional glitch if one has wrapmargin set and it's time to go to the next line. Once we are on that next line, you just hear the numbers and letters as you type them. If one inserts text in to the middle of a line, all forms of vi that I have used do say the character you just type plus every character to the right of the cursor that had to move over to make room. The oddness I describe occurs when the line is new and there should be nothing after the cursor. I hope this is not too confusing. Martin McCormick _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup