-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Just do a fresh, new install. I had similar problems as you're having with an apparently broken Orca. Doing a dresh install solved my problems. For the first time ever, I got a talking gdm3 login. Be aware of a couple of things. First, you must use an image with the graphical installer. The standard CD 1 works and that's what I downloaded. Just press "s" after a few seconds and you get speech, but unfortunately no beep on boot. Secondly, you must install the desktop environment at the time you install the rest of the system to get accessibility. You can't install it later. That's what happened to me the first time. I installed what I thought was the "gnome-desktop-environment" task after system boot and I got no Orca. Finally, GNOME 3.X is completely different than 2.X. I got speech when I logged in and I got the "Welcome to Orca" message but nothing else seemed to happen. I had to press either the Windows key or Alt-F1 to get the overview panel to come up which seemed to talk fine, but I didn't know what I was doing so I didn't get very far. On 5/28/2013 4:28 AM, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > Well, I have made things worse but am not sure how I did it except > that I tried altering the gnome console similar to the instructions > but, obviously I didn't do any good. Now, I don't even get the login > prompt from orca and when I kill gdm3, speakup does come back to life > but isn't connected to anything. If I switch consoles, say, alt-F2, > that console works and then the original tty1 works if I return to it > but the orca login seems to be a thing of the past. > > I am getting closer to just blowing the whole thing away and starting > over as the whole system so far, is a monument to frustrated attempts > to get orca to work. > > The only reason why I haven't done this yet is that the new wheezy > netinstall disk doesn't talk yet. > > When looking at the text files tied to the function keys on the wheezy > netinstall disk, it says the speakup option for booting is not > available on some images. Is the netinstall disk one of those since it > is slimmed down? > > I can certainly get the standard disk1 image if that is the case. > > I am so tired of silent boots without so much as a beep, counting key > presses that silently do something but who knows what and other > complex tasks with no feedback at all. This is the electronic > equivalent of a dog's chew toy. Spend hours and hours and nothing > really changes. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRpUNhAAoJEPrAuJWnLe0yekYP/jnSvWhy6WSb3xucOGfCrUpg 0OUx1OcRBrEXFvORHE39OGchNiarofwvSGJW69DjvcJIomodS+MXOnogBtB+NHBF 7VV9lJbHmky4AqjgVilt8c86t6rc6RRNoRoyE2RDiHlA5s26fl0o2Y7I/Ii+x6Wg CmGx8qCPm+FYJnByUJ81VLKQQuJlYH6AwPFwyYMdBlTHPUcPVdU6CGoROxhJZZe9 sw1IVxym/pVs7cUZh6wkWfObBDzyEjJR1RMUnNVJWgNrFKeqv7Af6551nyIfLL3j QQpsmkUZHIwUWUOLS7EMSa4fILmUVRzTj3xLHQNbycKuEWL7wFVEIgcbrTX1kLqS 6ReFlwGqDtqVY8+aWQU+5LnrBew8mzDbJkgc21jrjW0HHP/VCEzEHzUQfJJW6/pB yFCUF3VAe/KE+PvRoa4u1e3AeKO2dvp/pd2shqWq+vHblq1Y5i2LKuoZLxmFFcJI 5XNVqKaWEeQQctydW6dLiZVJ9AegDESuWW7whgjOi8zs9ic2wrWo65zqNxOx0t0H zFZSSze3PYgYNFs2Ck9Bq0vWIWqk5BcOMtuQBHzvQ2I2A4Z9KOMxyyDlfcAjHx3q r49pZhQR0W5re6tpPncSUKB+6s611J4nCvrXdLz0iC7I9MSK07++OqbYMlJ54yu+ qktnHE5t6rQ4TSMyjKm4 =hhhw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----