The shop didn't just know whether the motherboards they use have a serial port header block? That's a little scary in itself. I guess maybe it never came up. But that would worry me a little. Do you know what brand of motherboards they use? I know Asus mobos usually have the serial port header block. I just built a PC with an Asus mobo. While I was selecting a mobo on newegg, I picked out several and asked around about them. I didn't have any trouble finding mobos with the serial header. On 05/15/13 20:38, Mitchell D. Lynn wrote: > The shops I visited had systems built with those boards, and we checked CMOS > to see if they were listed there as well as in manuals. They also looked at > the board, and nothing indicated there were serial connections at all. It's > something I will keep in mind in the future. Usually buy my stuff online; > looks like I will again have to face those odious PDF files. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces at linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of > covici at ccs.covici.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:42 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Slack 13.37 and 14.0 > > Did you look at the specs to see if they had the headers -- what they seem > to be doing these days is have the headers without a cable or bracket, so > you have to bring it out to a slot on the back of the unit. > > Mitchell D. Lynn <mlynn at kc.rr.com> wrote: > >> I don't know about "most mainboards," but none of those I have looked >> at in the flesh over the past 12-months or so have had any serial >> connections at all. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces at linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of >> covici at ccs.covici.com >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:40 AM >> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >> Subject: Re: Slack 13.37 and 14.0 >> >> Most motherboards have the serial headers, just not brought out to the > back. >> >> Tony Baechler <tony at baechler.net> wrote: >> >>> No, you're still not understanding. Debian Wheezy has the 3.2 >>> kernel, so no serial support. That's why I suggested installing >>> Squeeze and upgrading to Wheezy. That way you can run the 2.6.32 >>> kernel with newer packages and still have serial support. No, you >>> won't get most boot messages with software speech because it takes a >>> while for sound drivers to load. I have both kernels installed here >>> so I can get hardware speech if my system becomes unbootable. I had >>> no problem finding a motherboard with a serial port last August. >>> You have to look for server motherboards, but they're not that hard to > find. >>> >>> On 5/15/2013 7:15 AM, Mitchell D. Lynn wrote: >>>> Thanks for the info on the 3.2 kernels. That, then, is the issue. >>>> >>>> RE Debian: Looks like there has been a new release since I last >>>> looked. Grabbed the Wheezy release and installed on a test system >>>> last night. Software synth works fine on that machine. No serial >>>> port on this system to test with DEC. I will see how it does on >>>> the main server later this week when I can have it down for an >>>> extended period. I can live with a software synth as long as I can >>>> get boot messages, and serial ports are getting harder to find on >>>> modern >> mainboards. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> -- >> Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: >> How do >> you spend it? >> >> John Covici >> covici at ccs.covici.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > covici at ccs.covici.com > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- --- John G. Heim, 608-263-4189, jheim at math.wisc.edu
