What is the best way to install orca so once installation is finished one has a good probability of getting it to come up talking during initial setup and at login once gdm3 runs? I tried tasksel and installed the desktop environment. While gnome-orca got downloaded, it did not work correctly after installing this way. I suspect installing the whole desktop environment installs package that fight with orca and orca's support files or that some necessary configuration was not done over here when I tried that. Right now, there is no mouse nor monitor attached to the Linux box and that may have caused its own set of problems as well. Support your local church or synagogue, worship at Bank Of America! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net> <http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html>